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--> 00:01:17,070 don't have one or you can also simply 30 00:01:23,660 --> 00:01:18,590 listen live by going to inception 31 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:23,670 radio.com / listen dash live thank you 32 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:25,710 so much for joining us live this week as 33 00:01:31,460 --> 00:01:28,110 you do each and every week and i want to 34 00:01:34,010 --> 00:01:31,470 say uh we are going to be one half short 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:34,020 for this particular episode damn change 36 00:01:37,490 --> 00:01:36,090 if anybody can hear the the the 37 00:01:40,370 --> 00:01:37,500 rabble-rousing going on in the 38 00:01:42,710 --> 00:01:40,380 background i have two chinchillas that 39 00:01:44,539 --> 00:01:42,720 also share the space that i'm in at the 40 00:01:46,639 --> 00:01:44,549 moment and usually when we do the show 41 00:01:48,469 --> 00:01:46,649 live they are asleep because they are 42 00:01:50,719 --> 00:01:48,479 nocturnal creatures but for some unknown 43 00:01:52,789 --> 00:01:50,729 reason to me today they are awake and 44 00:01:55,310 --> 00:01:52,799 running around like crazy so if any of 45 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:55,320 that comes across on the air know that 46 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:57,090 it is chinchillas in place while you're 47 00:02:01,130 --> 00:01:58,890 playing that way but like i said oh we 48 00:02:02,420 --> 00:02:01,140 are one half short on this shows this 49 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:02,430 particular episode of the show mark 50 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:04,710 schwartz the CEO of truth funders com 51 00:02:08,540 --> 00:02:06,329 that usually joins me is not going to be 52 00:02:10,940 --> 00:02:08,550 available to join us for this particular 53 00:02:13,630 --> 00:02:10,950 episode he is getting married in three 54 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:13,640 days on the 30th on saturday 55 00:02:18,790 --> 00:02:15,890 and as I suspected you know everything 56 00:02:21,250 --> 00:02:18,800 leading up to doing this show just for 57 00:02:22,780 --> 00:02:21,260 the wedding he was just yet all be good 58 00:02:24,430 --> 00:02:22,790 I'll be good I'll figure that will make 59 00:02:26,980 --> 00:02:24,440 the time will be there digital and then 60 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:26,990 of course two days ago he says I'm not 61 00:02:29,170 --> 00:02:28,130 gonna be able to do the show yeah no 62 00:02:31,270 --> 00:02:29,180 kidding dude you're getting married in 63 00:02:33,220 --> 00:02:31,280 three days so congratulations to mark 64 00:02:35,980 --> 00:02:33,230 and if any of you would like to call in 65 00:02:38,860 --> 00:02:35,990 and listen or provide your rather 66 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:38,870 thoughts on mark's upcoming nuptials or 67 00:02:46,270 --> 00:02:42,530 wishing well 88 89 1923 55 is the 68 00:02:51,460 --> 00:02:46,280 telephone number here at irn once again 69 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:51,470 88 89 1923 55 if you would like to get 70 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:52,970 in touch with me we've got a very 71 00:02:56,860 --> 00:02:54,560 special guest on the show with us today 72 00:02:58,390 --> 00:02:56,870 cannot wait to bring him on in just a 73 00:03:00,340 --> 00:02:58,400 couple minutes he's been on with us once 74 00:03:02,050 --> 00:03:00,350 before we've got a lot to catch up with 75 00:03:03,130 --> 00:03:02,060 him on and I know some other things 76 00:03:05,110 --> 00:03:03,140 you're there we're gonna play it kind of 77 00:03:07,060 --> 00:03:05,120 fast and loose with Mark not being 78 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:07,070 around um because you know usually he 79 00:03:12,490 --> 00:03:09,290 likes to stick to a very structured and 80 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:12,500 rigid type of show programming uh you 81 00:03:19,060 --> 00:03:17,209 know let's say template but chinchillas 82 00:03:20,350 --> 00:03:19,070 unbeliev you get something to say if 83 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:20,360 you're gonna add something just now is 84 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:25,010 the time please chinchillas don't wacky 85 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:26,329 creatures those chinchillas they really 86 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:29,570 do uh have a lot to say and a lot to 87 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:31,730 contribute when it comes to overall like 88 00:03:35,770 --> 00:03:33,920 vibes and energy you know we do tarot 89 00:03:39,190 --> 00:03:35,780 readings here at my house my wife and I 90 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:39,200 and we do a lot of energy work and when 91 00:03:42,220 --> 00:03:40,850 we will cleanse the space before we do 92 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:42,230 any kind of a tarot reading or anything 93 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:44,450 like that after we get done especially 94 00:03:48,370 --> 00:03:45,890 if it's a rather intense one that has 95 00:03:50,890 --> 00:03:48,380 taken quite a bit of energy from all of 96 00:03:53,110 --> 00:03:50,900 us these chinchillas after the fact will 97 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:53,120 ring bells for the better part of the 98 00:03:57,009 --> 00:03:55,250 rest of the night sometimes just to 99 00:03:59,500 --> 00:03:57,019 cleanse the space and really get all the 100 00:04:01,030 --> 00:03:59,510 all the accumulated energy out of the 101 00:04:04,090 --> 00:04:01,040 room they're in touch in ways that I 102 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:04,100 really wish I better understood but they 103 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:05,810 also love music I've never seen an 104 00:04:10,569 --> 00:04:09,110 animal so just infatuated with music 105 00:04:12,910 --> 00:04:10,579 like I said the nocturnal like a giant 106 00:04:15,130 --> 00:04:12,920 years tiny eyes so they listened a lot 107 00:04:16,810 --> 00:04:15,140 and anytime any kind of piano based 108 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:16,820 music especially is played in the house 109 00:04:21,729 --> 00:04:19,970 they run around going nuts so if an ink 110 00:04:25,510 --> 00:04:21,739 you have chinchillas you might be able 111 00:04:26,150 --> 00:04:25,520 to also um you know commiserating that 112 00:04:28,730 --> 00:04:26,160 way 113 00:04:30,380 --> 00:04:28,740 the rodents they're just big rodents you 114 00:04:33,710 --> 00:04:30,390 ever seen a capybara talk about a big 115 00:04:34,970 --> 00:04:33,720 world that's a dog sized rodent talking 116 00:04:39,140 --> 00:04:34,980 about animals on this week's truth 117 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:39,150 lenders radio 88 89 192 355 once again 118 00:04:43,730 --> 00:04:41,910 is the telephone number and I want to 119 00:04:45,230 --> 00:04:43,740 urge you to go to truth lenders calm if 120 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:45,240 that's not something that you are making 121 00:04:49,070 --> 00:04:47,520 it a part of your weekly or even daily 122 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:49,080 routine at this point there's a lot of 123 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:50,550 things going on at the website right now 124 00:04:55,940 --> 00:04:53,970 a lot of new projects going up on the 125 00:04:57,650 --> 00:04:55,950 rag actually for as busy as Mark is 126 00:04:59,360 --> 00:04:57,660 getting married in three days it is 127 00:05:00,620 --> 00:04:59,370 surprising to me just how much he is 128 00:05:02,090 --> 00:05:00,630 able to keep up on the website and 129 00:05:03,770 --> 00:05:02,100 getting new projects up and getting 130 00:05:05,390 --> 00:05:03,780 guests and this that the other thing 131 00:05:07,940 --> 00:05:05,400 we've got a lot of exciting guests in 132 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:07,950 the coming weeks to demonstrate for you 133 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:11,450 here on truth funders radio again 88 89 134 00:05:17,870 --> 00:05:15,930 1923 55 is the telephone number a quick 135 00:05:20,060 --> 00:05:17,880 other item of interest I just celebrated 136 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:20,070 my 30th birthday yesterday i'm not sure 137 00:05:24,590 --> 00:05:21,690 entirely how to feel about that I really 138 00:05:26,570 --> 00:05:24,600 do believe that it's all in the mind you 139 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:26,580 are as old as you feel and honestly I 140 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:29,490 still feel 23 years old my energy levels 141 00:05:34,250 --> 00:05:31,770 and my ability to work crazy hours and 142 00:05:37,310 --> 00:05:34,260 sleep on two or three and then go right 143 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:37,320 back at it I've severely de-escalated in 144 00:05:41,870 --> 00:05:38,970 last four or five years but other than 145 00:05:44,690 --> 00:05:41,880 that I feel the same on the inside and 146 00:05:47,390 --> 00:05:44,700 I'm curious about what your perspective 147 00:05:49,159 --> 00:05:47,400 is on that as well at age is age just a 148 00:05:51,260 --> 00:05:49,169 number i mean yeah i've circled around 149 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:51,270 the Sun 30 times now but honestly it is 150 00:05:55,940 --> 00:05:53,610 crazy to be when I look at other like 151 00:05:58,340 --> 00:05:55,950 peers people are graduated with high 152 00:06:01,370 --> 00:05:58,350 school on facebook and I see how much 153 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:01,380 age they show and how little like I show 154 00:06:04,610 --> 00:06:02,850 comparatively and I'm not saying that to 155 00:06:07,250 --> 00:06:04,620 brag it just blows my mind if I were to 156 00:06:09,409 --> 00:06:07,260 shave I still look 17 years old and I 157 00:06:11,540 --> 00:06:09,419 have this theory that you are as young 158 00:06:13,790 --> 00:06:11,550 on the outside as good as you are on the 159 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:13,800 inside if you are a good person and you 160 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:15,680 live your life in such a way that is 161 00:06:19,909 --> 00:06:18,000 towards the contribution of others I do 162 00:06:23,930 --> 00:06:19,919 believe that you age physically much 163 00:06:25,550 --> 00:06:23,940 more slowly than you do if you are 164 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:25,560 living a selfish life and one that is 165 00:06:30,050 --> 00:06:27,450 taking advantage of people I'd really do 166 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:30,060 believe that and the combination of a 167 00:06:36,020 --> 00:06:32,970 lot of alcohol will severely show your 168 00:06:37,850 --> 00:06:36,030 age on the outside and luckily I don't 169 00:06:39,540 --> 00:06:37,860 drink and I try to live my life as a 170 00:06:41,310 --> 00:06:39,550 good person and I do feel that 171 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:41,320 as a result I still look as young as I 172 00:06:45,450 --> 00:06:43,690 did 10 5 10 years ago whereas other 173 00:06:48,180 --> 00:06:45,460 people I see ya and not so much they 174 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:48,190 look 40 it's wild to me I want to do a 175 00:06:52,050 --> 00:06:50,290 shout-out to google and Harry listening 176 00:06:54,420 --> 00:06:52,060 to truth hunters in Key West Florida 177 00:06:56,850 --> 00:06:54,430 Harry we appreciate your patronage and 178 00:06:58,170 --> 00:06:56,860 we appreciate you tuning in live here on 179 00:07:01,260 --> 00:06:58,180 truth finders I know a lot of you listen 180 00:07:03,420 --> 00:07:01,270 via podcast each week and if you want to 181 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:03,430 join us live each and every wednesday at 182 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:07,330 6pm pacific time 9 p.m. eastern we do 183 00:07:11,940 --> 00:07:09,010 encourage you to do that once again a 184 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:11,950 289 19 to 35 5 is the telephone number 185 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:14,110 and you know this is kind of a loose 186 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:15,910 show with Mark not being here I just 187 00:07:19,230 --> 00:07:17,710 want to take the week to kick back and 188 00:07:21,030 --> 00:07:19,240 maybe discuss truth finders radio a 189 00:07:22,980 --> 00:07:21,040 little bit get your perception on the 190 00:07:24,540 --> 00:07:22,990 position of the show where we're at if 191 00:07:26,570 --> 00:07:24,550 you've been enjoying the interviews over 192 00:07:28,770 --> 00:07:26,580 the last few weeks how you felt about 193 00:07:30,630 --> 00:07:28,780 opera me last week suspicious observers 194 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:30,640 any of that just chime in with your 195 00:07:38,370 --> 00:07:35,890 thoughts 888 91 92 355 all right let's 196 00:07:39,990 --> 00:07:38,380 go ahead and bring jesse marcel in we 197 00:07:43,410 --> 00:07:40,000 are joined once again by Jesse Marcel 198 00:07:45,090 --> 00:07:43,420 jr. he has a phenomenal project I still 199 00:07:47,370 --> 00:07:45,100 ongoing right now truth thunders calm 200 00:07:49,470 --> 00:07:47,380 Jesse are you there good afternoon yes I 201 00:07:51,060 --> 00:07:49,480 am thank you so much again for joining 202 00:07:53,220 --> 00:07:51,070 us on the show last minute I know that 203 00:07:55,020 --> 00:07:53,230 this was kind of a quick booking for you 204 00:07:56,310 --> 00:07:55,030 but always a pleasure to have you on my 205 00:07:58,710 --> 00:07:56,320 friend and we got a lot to catch up on 206 00:08:01,650 --> 00:07:58,720 right yeah well thanks I'm read the time 207 00:08:03,030 --> 00:08:01,660 they work perfectly for me so couldn't 208 00:08:04,980 --> 00:08:03,040 be more thrilled to have you on and 209 00:08:06,570 --> 00:08:04,990 again Jesse will take calls all 210 00:08:09,450 --> 00:08:06,580 throughout the duration of the show 211 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:09,460 Jessie do we have you for an hour or the 212 00:08:12,090 --> 00:08:10,960 entire 90 minutes of the show that's one 213 00:08:14,190 --> 00:08:12,100 thing I wasn't able to get to the bottom 214 00:08:15,990 --> 00:08:14,200 of before we went on well that makes two 215 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:16,000 of us i was just asked if i come on 216 00:08:20,430 --> 00:08:18,250 tonight so here i am just i make it work 217 00:08:22,380 --> 00:08:20,440 well great then we will we will stay on 218 00:08:24,570 --> 00:08:22,390 for as long as you possibly can before 219 00:08:26,070 --> 00:08:24,580 we run out of time so let's talk a 220 00:08:28,260 --> 00:08:26,080 little bit about your project currently 221 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:28,270 up at truth funders calm it is ongoing 222 00:08:33,330 --> 00:08:30,520 there's still about another month left 223 00:08:35,250 --> 00:08:33,340 on your eye beams project if we could 224 00:08:36,660 --> 00:08:35,260 just give people that weren't listening 225 00:08:38,670 --> 00:08:36,670 to the first episode and by the way if 226 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:38,680 you want to listen to our first 227 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:40,240 interview Jesse I encourage you to 228 00:08:44,430 --> 00:08:42,880 download the podcast via inception radio 229 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:44,440 network a lot of good information in 230 00:08:48,510 --> 00:08:46,390 there that we probably won't attract 231 00:08:50,430 --> 00:08:48,520 again tonight but you can definitely go 232 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:50,440 back and check some that out but just to 233 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:52,210 refresh everyone let's talk about the 234 00:08:54,930 --> 00:08:53,170 i-beams project 235 00:08:56,670 --> 00:08:54,940 exactly what it is that you are looking 236 00:09:00,180 --> 00:08:56,680 to accomplish with your truth funders 237 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:00,190 campaign okay well I guess it's simply 238 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:02,290 to start out with if some of these folks 239 00:09:08,730 --> 00:09:05,529 aren't familiar with the i-beam is back 240 00:09:12,780 --> 00:09:08,740 during the epidemic when Roswell when 241 00:09:14,370 --> 00:09:12,790 there during the crash back in 1947 my 242 00:09:16,110 --> 00:09:14,380 grandfather if you know story brought 243 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:16,120 some debris home on his way to the 244 00:09:20,370 --> 00:09:18,610 office back to the base because he 245 00:09:23,490 --> 00:09:20,380 thought the debris was something from a 246 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:23,500 crashed alien ship of some kind and it 247 00:09:27,900 --> 00:09:25,510 being he was an intelligence he had a 248 00:09:29,550 --> 00:09:27,910 really good idea that once it made it 249 00:09:31,079 --> 00:09:29,560 back to the base that it would disappear 250 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:31,089 pretty much forever so he wanted to 251 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:33,370 share with my father his wife and it was 252 00:09:38,250 --> 00:09:36,850 in that sharing that he pulled a box out 253 00:09:40,290 --> 00:09:38,260 of the back of his car and spread it on 254 00:09:43,319 --> 00:09:40,300 the kitchen floor and uh and there was 255 00:09:46,650 --> 00:09:43,329 some foil some plastic some basic glass 256 00:09:49,740 --> 00:09:46,660 fibrous materials and these basically 257 00:09:51,090 --> 00:09:49,750 what we've come to describe as 258 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:51,100 structural beams that's our best 259 00:09:54,420 --> 00:09:53,170 estimate we could be off but our guess 260 00:09:57,689 --> 00:09:54,430 there's some kind of a structural beam 261 00:10:00,960 --> 00:09:57,699 that had a I cross-section and as the 262 00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:00,970 Lord goes my father is a 12 year old 263 00:10:08,389 --> 00:10:03,760 child held went up to a light at a slant 264 00:10:11,550 --> 00:10:08,399 and some some symbols like Holograms 265 00:10:13,170 --> 00:10:11,560 were became visible and it's dead-on 266 00:10:14,939 --> 00:10:13,180 they're invisible but again like I said 267 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:14,949 it at an angle it became visible like a 268 00:10:21,930 --> 00:10:18,490 hologram and what we've done is taken 269 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:21,940 those symbols that both my grandfather 270 00:10:26,970 --> 00:10:24,850 had scratched out he hit it and my 271 00:10:29,939 --> 00:10:26,980 father the same way and we just put 272 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:29,949 together all those symbols then I can't 273 00:10:33,030 --> 00:10:31,570 turn them into a font just to make them 274 00:10:35,610 --> 00:10:33,040 easy to work with just deciding 275 00:10:37,199 --> 00:10:35,620 basically random letters to each symbol 276 00:10:39,389 --> 00:10:37,209 although there was some meaning to it 277 00:10:42,660 --> 00:10:39,399 those symbols it appeared more often 278 00:10:46,650 --> 00:10:42,670 we're given letters like est-elle you 279 00:10:50,129 --> 00:10:46,660 know those kind of things and so and we 280 00:10:54,150 --> 00:10:50,139 took that font and then use that to 281 00:10:55,410 --> 00:10:54,160 print the these symbols on replica 282 00:10:57,540 --> 00:10:55,420 pieces they're under pieces of a 283 00:11:00,870 --> 00:10:57,550 lightweight metal is basically works out 284 00:11:02,220 --> 00:11:00,880 to be and so that you can 285 00:11:03,780 --> 00:11:02,230 hold on to it they're holding are we so 286 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:03,790 I did a good replica of what they held 287 00:11:08,850 --> 00:11:07,330 onto back then that's the nest that's 288 00:11:10,140 --> 00:11:08,860 what we're doing with it and truth 289 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:10,150 fighters I talked to mark i was lucky 290 00:11:13,710 --> 00:11:12,370 I'm talked to mark the I've spent 291 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:13,720 several months ago and he thought it 292 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:16,450 would be a good position with truth 293 00:11:22,110 --> 00:11:18,850 funders to bring it out in the 294 00:11:23,700 --> 00:11:22,120 marketplace through his company and and 295 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:23,710 that's what we did we put together the 296 00:11:27,390 --> 00:11:25,210 program and that's basically if 297 00:11:29,460 --> 00:11:27,400 somebody's interested in entertaining 298 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:29,470 when these i-beams you can go on to do 299 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:31,690 thunders and look at those we also have 300 00:11:34,980 --> 00:11:33,130 some other things like I think the 301 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:34,990 thought itself is there and downloadable 302 00:11:39,810 --> 00:11:37,330 and just some other information some 303 00:11:42,510 --> 00:11:39,820 kind of famous pictures that I had done 304 00:11:44,430 --> 00:11:42,520 that sort of thing I would say just some 305 00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:44,440 other information i would say tons of 306 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:46,240 other information is actually on the 307 00:11:50,490 --> 00:11:48,310 website where the campaign is currently 308 00:11:53,070 --> 00:11:50,500 listed and if you go to truth funders 309 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:53,080 calm right there on the home page if you 310 00:11:56,790 --> 00:11:54,970 scroll down to about I don't know it's 311 00:11:58,140 --> 00:11:56,800 maybe two-thirds the way down you'll see 312 00:11:59,610 --> 00:11:58,150 a little link that says more projects 313 00:12:01,170 --> 00:11:59,620 click on that it gives you a full 314 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:01,180 listing of all the projects currently up 315 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:02,890 on truth funders and second row down 316 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:05,710 Roswell I beam is Jesse's campaign I've 317 00:12:09,660 --> 00:12:08,110 also just posted it in the chat room for 318 00:12:12,780 --> 00:12:09,670 those of you currently listening live on 319 00:12:14,940 --> 00:12:12,790 I are in and there is like you just said 320 00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:14,950 a just a plethora of information and 321 00:12:20,580 --> 00:12:17,580 things to look at and all sorts of 322 00:12:22,050 --> 00:12:20,590 content to really digest by reading the 323 00:12:24,630 --> 00:12:22,060 the campaign I mean you really have 324 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:24,640 provided so much including pictures of 325 00:12:30,060 --> 00:12:27,130 these i-beams and like you said text 326 00:12:33,180 --> 00:12:30,070 samples of the font and there are so 327 00:12:34,740 --> 00:12:33,190 many levels of donation that you can 328 00:12:37,350 --> 00:12:34,750 participate in you know anywhere from 329 00:12:39,090 --> 00:12:37,360 five bucks to anything up to really 330 00:12:40,530 --> 00:12:39,100 twenty-five hundred dollars the goal for 331 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:40,540 this project is thirty five hundred 332 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:42,850 dollars and you're well on your way but 333 00:12:46,980 --> 00:12:44,530 simple five bucks gets you a Roswell 334 00:12:48,750 --> 00:12:46,990 alien symbols poster download and that 335 00:12:50,580 --> 00:12:48,760 in and of itself is something I've 336 00:12:52,980 --> 00:12:50,590 donated five dollars towards and I am 337 00:12:54,210 --> 00:12:52,990 excited about just having be able to be 338 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:54,220 able to hang on my wall and be part of 339 00:12:59,090 --> 00:12:56,530 this history but really you throw in 25 340 00:13:01,710 --> 00:12:59,100 bucks and you're getting a genuine that 341 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:01,720 limited run the replica of these roswell 342 00:13:06,810 --> 00:13:04,210 I beams that your grandfather brought 343 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:06,820 home and they are just the toppest 344 00:13:11,970 --> 00:13:10,450 quality looking pieces of paranormal 345 00:13:13,530 --> 00:13:11,980 history in such a way that I mean 346 00:13:14,140 --> 00:13:13,540 they're coming directly from you and 347 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:14,150 this is 348 00:13:17,890 --> 00:13:16,370 from your family's lineage I mean you 349 00:13:19,180 --> 00:13:17,900 guys have been involved with this for 350 00:13:21,340 --> 00:13:19,190 years and years and years and years this 351 00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:21,350 isn't some third party made in China 352 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:23,510 source I mean you are seeing through the 353 00:13:28,450 --> 00:13:25,130 production of these things from front to 354 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:28,460 end while also contributing towards the 355 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:31,130 final goal of your project which 356 00:13:36,820 --> 00:13:35,210 ultimately is too um what what what do 357 00:13:39,250 --> 00:13:36,830 you what you know wish to accomplish 358 00:13:41,470 --> 00:13:39,260 with the thirty-five hundred dollars 359 00:13:43,420 --> 00:13:41,480 once it's raised via truth funders calm 360 00:13:44,860 --> 00:13:43,430 well you know of course will manufacture 361 00:13:48,580 --> 00:13:44,870 the i-beams we're currently in the 362 00:13:51,070 --> 00:13:48,590 process of doing that but well basically 363 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:51,080 we've made so we made a very limited run 364 00:13:55,570 --> 00:13:53,930 in the past and we ended up by and we 365 00:13:57,580 --> 00:13:55,580 actually we actually did sell some of 366 00:13:59,020 --> 00:13:57,590 those but we at we end up by a lot of 367 00:14:01,840 --> 00:13:59,030 places you know some of your move on 368 00:14:03,010 --> 00:14:01,850 that kind of thing had we either donated 369 00:14:05,110 --> 00:14:03,020 or they purchased and depend on what the 370 00:14:06,730 --> 00:14:05,120 situation was and they'd raffle them off 371 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:06,740 and they ended up with some museums that 372 00:14:12,850 --> 00:14:09,490 kind of thing it's accident it's really 373 00:14:15,550 --> 00:14:12,860 the most tangible way to get involved 374 00:14:17,980 --> 00:14:15,560 with the UFO phenomenon and of course 375 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:17,990 more strictly the roswell incident but 376 00:14:21,790 --> 00:14:20,330 it's it's one thing to look at a book 377 00:14:23,620 --> 00:14:21,800 and read it or seat on the television 378 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:23,630 show but when you're actually holding a 379 00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:26,330 piece that very much very closely mimics 380 00:14:29,290 --> 00:14:27,680 what they held back then it's kind of 381 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:29,300 exciting I bet a lot of people's but 382 00:14:32,770 --> 00:14:31,250 it's one of the most interesting coffee 383 00:14:35,170 --> 00:14:32,780 table pieces you'll ever see y'all say 384 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:35,180 that much and certainly a conversation 385 00:14:38,470 --> 00:14:36,650 start I mean people say tattoos or 386 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:38,480 conversations so yes this thing with you 387 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:41,450 know the the symbols imprinted onto them 388 00:14:45,460 --> 00:14:42,890 in such the holographic way that you do 389 00:14:47,110 --> 00:14:45,470 I mean it is a piece that you can 390 00:14:48,820 --> 00:14:47,120 predominantly display weather on your 391 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:48,830 coffee table or on your mantle or even 392 00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:50,300 on the dash your car if you wanted to 393 00:14:53,050 --> 00:14:51,710 God I mean I don't they might get really 394 00:14:56,650 --> 00:14:53,060 hot in the summertime that's up to you 395 00:14:59,950 --> 00:14:56,660 but uh yet they are just a piece of 396 00:15:01,540 --> 00:14:59,960 paranormal history to have with you as a 397 00:15:03,310 --> 00:15:01,550 reminder i think really more than 398 00:15:06,130 --> 00:15:03,320 anything as a reminder to keep your mind 399 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:06,140 open to keep yourself refreshed on a 400 00:15:10,930 --> 00:15:08,090 daily basis that's how i would use this 401 00:15:13,570 --> 00:15:10,940 particular object that I you know uh 402 00:15:15,190 --> 00:15:13,580 made the commitment to Jesse which I 403 00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:15,200 have but I'm saying for those of you 404 00:15:19,090 --> 00:15:17,360 listening who maybe have not yet it's a 405 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:19,100 good thing to just keep maybe even by 406 00:15:22,450 --> 00:15:20,330 your bed so when you wake up in the 407 00:15:24,850 --> 00:15:22,460 morning you have a physical tangible 408 00:15:27,610 --> 00:15:24,860 reminder to go out into the world being 409 00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:27,620 open-minded may be suspicious maybe uh 410 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:30,110 you know cautiously optimistic but to 411 00:15:34,690 --> 00:15:32,210 keep yourself open to things and I 412 00:15:36,730 --> 00:15:34,700 really do think that they do hold great 413 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:36,740 value in achieving just that for people 414 00:15:41,079 --> 00:15:38,690 let alone the the greater Universal 415 00:15:43,540 --> 00:15:41,089 picture of exposing truth and really 416 00:15:45,340 --> 00:15:43,550 getting to the bottom of this area 51 417 00:15:47,470 --> 00:15:45,350 thing once and for all I mean good lord 418 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:47,480 do you really believe that they will 419 00:15:53,140 --> 00:15:51,050 honestly ever disclose uh from a 420 00:15:54,970 --> 00:15:53,150 governmental standpoint the existence of 421 00:15:58,450 --> 00:15:54,980 alien life or really anything that did 422 00:15:59,560 --> 00:15:58,460 happen Roswell crash wise back in uh you 423 00:16:02,560 --> 00:15:59,570 know the fools at the forties and 424 00:16:05,620 --> 00:16:02,570 fifties I'm sorry seven I you know I 47 425 00:16:08,740 --> 00:16:05,630 I i think there's little signs of a 426 00:16:10,090 --> 00:16:08,750 trickling out here and there um you know 427 00:16:12,250 --> 00:16:10,100 that doesn't to me that they are 428 00:16:14,650 --> 00:16:12,260 preparing us in a lot of ways for some 429 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:14,660 kind of but maybe not an announcement 430 00:16:17,740 --> 00:16:16,370 but a shift I mean you know that with 431 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:17,750 the Catholic Church having come out and 432 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:19,130 saying that aliens exist there are 433 00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:21,410 little seeds here and there it seems 434 00:16:27,070 --> 00:16:23,660 every year that are being planted that 435 00:16:29,230 --> 00:16:27,080 are setting up the general global 436 00:16:31,540 --> 00:16:29,240 population to have to accept these types 437 00:16:34,060 --> 00:16:31,550 of things starting with little bits like 438 00:16:35,650 --> 00:16:34,070 religious circles admitting that you 439 00:16:37,269 --> 00:16:35,660 know our alien or star brothers and 440 00:16:38,980 --> 00:16:37,279 sisters do exist in things like that i 441 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:38,990 mean we could go on about the catholic 442 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:40,730 church for an hour if we wanted to and 443 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:42,890 their involvement with extraterrestrial 444 00:16:48,610 --> 00:16:46,370 beings yeah and this you know of course 445 00:16:50,110 --> 00:16:48,620 we're fairly intimately involved what's 446 00:16:52,329 --> 00:16:50,120 going on others because of our family's 447 00:16:55,150 --> 00:16:52,339 name second i kind of thing but it does 448 00:16:57,010 --> 00:16:55,160 the atmosphere surrounding this and 449 00:16:58,660 --> 00:16:57,020 other sightings another other you know 450 00:17:00,720 --> 00:16:58,670 possible contact my kind of thing is 451 00:17:03,670 --> 00:17:00,730 becoming a much more positive movement 452 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:03,680 you know it used to be where people try 453 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:06,170 to discredit and try you know nothing 454 00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:08,089 it's all true of course but people keep 455 00:17:11,439 --> 00:17:10,370 people were somewhat scared of their 456 00:17:13,660 --> 00:17:11,449 shadow when it came to this kind of 457 00:17:15,340 --> 00:17:13,670 thing but now I it's a new generation 458 00:17:17,260 --> 00:17:15,350 people are embracing the idea and the 459 00:17:19,090 --> 00:17:17,270 concepts of life in the universe beyond 460 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:19,100 our own of course you know just the 461 00:17:22,809 --> 00:17:20,480 other day there was a big article came 462 00:17:25,780 --> 00:17:22,819 out where you know they're figuring just 463 00:17:27,819 --> 00:17:25,790 in our intern it with the neighbors of 464 00:17:30,010 --> 00:17:27,829 our own planet there's probably 55 465 00:17:32,650 --> 00:17:30,020 million other planets that have that 466 00:17:35,410 --> 00:17:32,660 life is likely just that you know that 467 00:17:37,030 --> 00:17:35,420 fit those the Goldilocks zone that that 468 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:37,040 those parameters that we understand life 469 00:17:40,860 --> 00:17:40,490 but you know as you know if you have an 470 00:17:42,540 --> 00:17:40,870 open 471 00:17:44,670 --> 00:17:42,550 about this that we invite on this plan 472 00:17:48,060 --> 00:17:44,680 as planet is like you know silicon-based 473 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:48,070 life where temperature might not be as 474 00:17:52,770 --> 00:17:50,470 much a factor in biological you know 475 00:17:54,270 --> 00:17:52,780 creation as as you know when you're when 476 00:17:56,010 --> 00:17:54,280 you're based on some kind of a different 477 00:17:57,870 --> 00:17:56,020 a different format of some kind but I 478 00:17:59,190 --> 00:17:57,880 mean really were to find out that you 479 00:18:01,140 --> 00:17:59,200 know my belief is I mean life's 480 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:01,150 everywhere life's around us you know in 481 00:18:05,850 --> 00:18:03,370 and it's time to embrace that it's such 482 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:05,860 a positive thing like Roswell like I 483 00:18:11,370 --> 00:18:09,010 kind of you know in a way Roswell it 484 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:11,380 there's there's astronauts now that have 485 00:18:16,049 --> 00:18:13,600 become astronauts because of the 486 00:18:18,419 --> 00:18:16,059 folklore of stories like Roswell and 487 00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:18,429 that my teen interest in in finding life 488 00:18:23,190 --> 00:18:21,520 in the universe I like my father it was 489 00:18:24,540 --> 00:18:23,200 a medical doctor but when he wasn't 490 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:24,550 being a doctor and he was staring at the 491 00:18:28,169 --> 00:18:26,650 stars he was you know reading everything 492 00:18:30,540 --> 00:18:28,179 his hands on he was trying to become 493 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:30,550 more and more connected with life in the 494 00:18:34,110 --> 00:18:32,050 universe around him and and that was 495 00:18:35,940 --> 00:18:34,120 just from that the impact it had from 496 00:18:37,860 --> 00:18:35,950 holding and viewing this material back 497 00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:37,870 when he was 12 years old you know and 498 00:18:41,490 --> 00:18:39,910 that goes even further to that point i 499 00:18:43,950 --> 00:18:41,500 would state that the millennial 500 00:18:45,870 --> 00:18:43,960 generation is so much more open minded 501 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:45,880 and so much more centered in terms of 502 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:48,640 having a position that is not one of 503 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:51,490 immediate knee-jerk reaction based on 504 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:53,710 what they were told to believe by their 505 00:18:57,810 --> 00:18:55,690 parents growing up that it does set the 506 00:19:00,780 --> 00:18:57,820 overall atmosphere and climate up for 507 00:19:03,169 --> 00:19:00,790 much more productive discussion on the 508 00:19:05,130 --> 00:19:03,179 matter as opposed to like you said 509 00:19:09,540 --> 00:19:05,140 taking one step forward and two steps 510 00:19:10,919 --> 00:19:09,550 back constantly with the entire field in 511 00:19:13,020 --> 00:19:10,929 and of itself and discussing it you're 512 00:19:15,030 --> 00:19:13,030 right it was an uphill constant battle 513 00:19:17,820 --> 00:19:15,040 we are now seeing a very substantial 514 00:19:19,740 --> 00:19:17,830 shift into a more neutral and not 515 00:19:23,010 --> 00:19:19,750 necessarily downhill at this point but 516 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:23,020 flatlined in such a way that we can now 517 00:19:27,180 --> 00:19:24,730 openly have these conversations without 518 00:19:29,070 --> 00:19:27,190 fear of repercussions or judgment or 519 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:29,080 anything like that as a matter of fact I 520 00:19:32,700 --> 00:19:31,120 was just listening to a story on NPR 521 00:19:35,790 --> 00:19:32,710 today about the Millennial Generation 522 00:19:37,410 --> 00:19:35,800 and their overall mass exodus from the 523 00:19:40,110 --> 00:19:37,420 Christian from Christianity faith 524 00:19:42,930 --> 00:19:40,120 because of their ability to go online 525 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:42,940 and research spirituality and things of 526 00:19:50,700 --> 00:19:47,710 that nature without any kind of they're 527 00:19:52,490 --> 00:19:50,710 just open to the access and be able to 528 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:52,500 read about these things 529 00:19:55,220 --> 00:19:53,970 without having to go to somebody for 530 00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:55,230 fear of judgment and saying hey I'm 531 00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:56,640 interested in this that the other thing 532 00:20:01,820 --> 00:19:59,520 and it's very fascinating to see the UH 533 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:01,830 the walls crumbling essentially with the 534 00:20:06,290 --> 00:20:03,450 Millennials and the in the Christianity 535 00:20:09,380 --> 00:20:06,300 faith as as we go on and grow and I do 536 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:09,390 think that definitely uh correlates and 537 00:20:13,970 --> 00:20:11,250 speaks directly to where we are going 538 00:20:15,620 --> 00:20:13,980 with overall discussion of UFOs and look 539 00:20:17,690 --> 00:20:15,630 I mean what Steven Greer is doing with 540 00:20:20,750 --> 00:20:17,700 you know the Congress and the whole 541 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:20,760 thing there's just much more on Sirius 542 00:20:26,570 --> 00:20:24,210 and various even Bassett yeah Bassett 543 00:20:28,430 --> 00:20:26,580 excuse me right and you'll find Ella is 544 00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:28,440 kind of funny is that I I have a movie 545 00:20:32,990 --> 00:20:29,790 that we've been working on it's finally 546 00:20:34,670 --> 00:20:33,000 come together and it was Pig Congress it 547 00:20:36,020 --> 00:20:34,680 was called Grail when I started about 548 00:20:37,340 --> 00:20:36,030 seven years ago and I just found out 549 00:20:38,810 --> 00:20:37,350 from the production coming today there 550 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:38,820 and change the name so i can't tell you 551 00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:40,890 what it's going to be cold but it's 552 00:20:45,740 --> 00:20:42,240 hitting a lot of what you're talking 553 00:20:47,780 --> 00:20:45,750 about right now and it is about the 554 00:20:50,030 --> 00:20:47,790 blossoming of our humanity and the 555 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:50,040 ability reason the ability to look at 556 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:53,090 you know maybe what you've been told and 557 00:20:56,900 --> 00:20:55,410 we're told to believe in might not be 558 00:20:59,090 --> 00:20:56,910 completely true and you need to make 559 00:21:01,190 --> 00:20:59,100 those decisions yourself and because of 560 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:01,200 information traveling is fast and 561 00:21:05,150 --> 00:21:03,210 efficient it is now and maybe we're 562 00:21:06,170 --> 00:21:05,160 evolving at a different level maybe we 563 00:21:08,030 --> 00:21:06,180 are more in touch with the universe 564 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:08,040 around us were more open to being a 565 00:21:13,340 --> 00:21:10,410 touch beyond just a written or spoken 566 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:13,350 word or whatever and any of the ability 567 00:21:17,630 --> 00:21:14,910 that maybe you know some of the things 568 00:21:19,340 --> 00:21:17,640 you know and I'm not you know saying 569 00:21:20,450 --> 00:21:19,350 anything in division but maybe some of 570 00:21:22,670 --> 00:21:20,460 the things about religion that you've 571 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:22,680 been brought up to be know if there's I 572 00:21:27,410 --> 00:21:24,690 have very very strong spiritual beliefs 573 00:21:28,850 --> 00:21:27,420 they're very strong but you have to look 574 00:21:31,340 --> 00:21:28,860 at some of the religions out there and 575 00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:31,350 really scratch your head and I think 576 00:21:34,730 --> 00:21:33,120 it's important that you know that with 577 00:21:37,250 --> 00:21:34,740 the new generations that you do that do 578 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:37,260 you the questioning is good and even if 579 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:39,090 it's just internal you know you can't 580 00:21:42,110 --> 00:21:40,650 take things at face value you need to 581 00:21:44,300 --> 00:21:42,120 discover the answers for yourself and 582 00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:44,310 there you will when I don't you know 583 00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:46,500 just in my own experience in going about 584 00:21:50,990 --> 00:21:48,240 in my day-to-day life with my peers and 585 00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:51,000 all that there is such an influx of the 586 00:21:56,780 --> 00:21:53,310 concept of being at spiritual and having 587 00:21:58,790 --> 00:21:56,790 a general spiritual connection to the 588 00:22:01,520 --> 00:21:58,800 universe in the world around us and very 589 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:01,530 much so inversely speaking less of the 590 00:22:05,970 --> 00:22:05,130 structured and rigid religious state 591 00:22:07,740 --> 00:22:05,980 will believes that 592 00:22:10,980 --> 00:22:07,750 you know if you're going to believe in 593 00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:10,990 on one thing you have to accept this 594 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:14,080 particular uh you know a set of 595 00:22:18,090 --> 00:22:15,730 parameters that go along with it for 596 00:22:19,380 --> 00:22:18,100 example the even juggler right wing you 597 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:19,390 know if you're gay you're going to hell 598 00:22:23,070 --> 00:22:20,890 this that the other thing but says your 599 00:22:26,159 --> 00:22:23,080 power of good and in Christ and all that 600 00:22:27,690 --> 00:22:26,169 it did they're very um contradictory a 601 00:22:30,150 --> 00:22:27,700 lot of times and I do believe that we 602 00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:30,160 are seeing a lot of kids thinking for 603 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:31,600 themselves and standing up and saying 604 00:22:36,150 --> 00:22:34,030 wait a minute what about just being a 605 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:36,160 good person and I do it's an exciting 606 00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:37,690 time to live in because that that 607 00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:41,470 fundamental and elementary step alone is 608 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:43,840 going to provide a much wider discussion 609 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:46,650 in the mainstream for looking at 610 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:48,610 alternative life-forms in the universe 611 00:22:51,930 --> 00:22:51,010 and ultimately you know discovering and 612 00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:51,940 finding them whether it'll be 613 00:22:55,919 --> 00:22:53,710 intelligent and able to communicate with 614 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:55,929 us is a different topic altogether but 615 00:23:01,049 --> 00:22:58,410 just getting to the root of it and 616 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:01,059 officially saying there is life in the 617 00:23:06,380 --> 00:23:03,250 universe and personally I don't believe 618 00:23:08,820 --> 00:23:06,390 that it will be a organized governmental 619 00:23:10,919 --> 00:23:08,830 system that will announce it I do think 620 00:23:13,140 --> 00:23:10,929 that it will be an independent source 621 00:23:14,940 --> 00:23:13,150 that will eventually disclose alien life 622 00:23:17,010 --> 00:23:14,950 whether it be the alien life themselves 623 00:23:18,419 --> 00:23:17,020 or something like the Catholic Church I 624 00:23:21,210 --> 00:23:18,429 think the last person that we should 625 00:23:23,220 --> 00:23:21,220 expect true disclosure from to actually 626 00:23:24,810 --> 00:23:23,230 be the US government you know it might 627 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:24,820 even be the Mexican government or some 628 00:23:28,530 --> 00:23:26,110 South American government before them 629 00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:28,540 well I agree it's like it you know not I 630 00:23:32,340 --> 00:23:30,880 don't wanna go political but I mean I 631 00:23:34,530 --> 00:23:32,350 obviously don't have a lot of faith in 632 00:23:35,970 --> 00:23:34,540 our government it's like I don't think 633 00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:35,980 that's the place i'm going to go to to 634 00:23:40,860 --> 00:23:38,080 get my answers i think the truth is out 635 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:40,870 there in Sonic X Files I guess it's I 636 00:23:45,210 --> 00:23:43,570 mean it is around us and and by the way 637 00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,220 better you just said the x-files the 638 00:23:50,610 --> 00:23:47,200 fact that the x-files is coming back for 639 00:23:53,010 --> 00:23:50,620 a completely new run on Fox in January 640 00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:53,020 it speaks to this whole topic in and of 641 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:54,880 itself people are clamoring for this 642 00:23:59,970 --> 00:23:57,970 type of content absolutely i mean people 643 00:24:02,970 --> 00:23:59,980 want the wonderment and they want the i 644 00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:02,980 mean it is it's it's it's a really great 645 00:24:07,530 --> 00:24:04,720 way to live to believe in something 646 00:24:09,299 --> 00:24:07,540 beyond yourself but your imagination and 647 00:24:10,919 --> 00:24:09,309 and you can also connect the dots that 648 00:24:13,049 --> 00:24:10,929 yeah i mean they are obviously these 649 00:24:14,970 --> 00:24:13,059 these topics are fictitious but there's 650 00:24:17,250 --> 00:24:14,980 elements within them that are basically 651 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:17,260 concepts that could be exist in our own 652 00:24:19,850 --> 00:24:19,330 realities and I don't see I think they 653 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:19,860 do I 654 00:24:24,860 --> 00:24:22,530 and I the more I travel the more I go 655 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:24,870 too far off places and villages and it's 656 00:24:29,330 --> 00:24:27,570 like the more I talked to people it's 657 00:24:32,690 --> 00:24:29,340 like you realize there's so much going 658 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:32,700 around us that you don't really you know 659 00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:34,650 there anything is possible and 660 00:24:39,289 --> 00:24:36,630 everything is possible and probably does 661 00:24:40,910 --> 00:24:39,299 happen so and i also think to that point 662 00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:40,920 just a little bit further speaking on a 663 00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:45,870 on a more macro scale it's a time it 664 00:24:50,299 --> 00:24:47,670 right now in society and culture 665 00:24:52,010 --> 00:24:50,309 globally that i think we are in a lot of 666 00:24:55,549 --> 00:24:52,020 ways especially here in the United 667 00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:55,559 States yearning and and really desiring 668 00:25:01,039 --> 00:24:58,080 some kind of outlook on our future that 669 00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:01,049 is not so dark cold and dystopian I mean 670 00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:03,510 ever since really the September 11th 671 00:25:07,310 --> 00:25:04,799 attacks at the beginning of the 672 00:25:10,730 --> 00:25:07,320 millennium we have been fed this future 673 00:25:14,060 --> 00:25:10,740 of war and darkness and negativity and 674 00:25:16,010 --> 00:25:14,070 really just things not being any better 675 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:16,020 than they have been for the last six 676 00:25:19,970 --> 00:25:17,370 months to a year once we hit the 677 00:25:21,890 --> 00:25:19,980 economic crash in 08 that only fed that 678 00:25:25,130 --> 00:25:21,900 fuel a little bit further and everybody 679 00:25:26,659 --> 00:25:25,140 in my age that is of the abor 1980 or 680 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:26,669 later we've really been dealing with 681 00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:29,570 this future ahead of us that is very 682 00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:32,880 uncertain and not bright because of a 683 00:25:35,450 --> 00:25:34,080 lot of the mistakes that were made i 684 00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:35,460 think by the generation above us and 685 00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:37,110 their foolishness with money in the set 686 00:25:42,380 --> 00:25:39,390 the other thing but more so to my point 687 00:25:43,940 --> 00:25:42,390 i think that we really want a future and 688 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:43,950 some and something to look forward to 689 00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:46,650 that is worthy of our investment in time 690 00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:48,990 and effort and emotion honestly I just 691 00:25:52,970 --> 00:25:50,760 wouldn't sell Tomorrowland a couple 692 00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:52,980 nights ago phenomenal good lord this 693 00:25:57,860 --> 00:25:55,230 film I did one of those pagan like best 694 00:26:01,490 --> 00:25:57,870 films i've ever seen a global 695 00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:01,500 consciousness is the exact story the 696 00:26:04,370 --> 00:26:02,910 story's about global consciousness in 697 00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:04,380 the effects of global consciousness and 698 00:26:08,419 --> 00:26:06,150 the effects of everybody collectively 699 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:08,429 looking forward to a future that is 700 00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:10,890 either dark and scary or optimistic and 701 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:13,080 bright and good lord i miss being a kid 702 00:26:17,150 --> 00:26:15,150 and looking forward to the future even 703 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:17,160 saying back to the future 2 when that 704 00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:19,410 came out when I was yeah i mean the 705 00:26:23,690 --> 00:26:21,120 future was bright and exciting and fun 706 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:23,700 and there's really none of that right 707 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:25,530 now and we'd need more of that we need a 708 00:26:29,870 --> 00:26:27,570 reason to get up every day and to go 709 00:26:31,220 --> 00:26:29,880 contribute to society as a whole and i 710 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:31,230 know this is a much greater discussion 711 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:33,330 than you know alien disclosure but I 712 00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:36,210 all kind of leads into itself no I mean 713 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:38,940 I do I mean it does seem though I mean 714 00:26:43,910 --> 00:26:40,650 how long has been going on for like you 715 00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:43,920 know 15 years now where there's the a 716 00:26:48,590 --> 00:26:45,630 right we're living in a world of doom 717 00:26:49,850 --> 00:26:48,600 and gloom and it's like if you don't you 718 00:26:51,050 --> 00:26:49,860 got to be able to see our way out of 719 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:51,060 this the bigger picture and 720 00:26:55,910 --> 00:26:52,890 unfortunately we're being confined all 721 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:55,920 this negativity and it it is you know no 722 00:27:02,090 --> 00:26:58,650 biggie i mean the media's I tribution to 723 00:27:05,540 --> 00:27:02,100 that good golly well yeah that really 724 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:05,550 tried trying to create this negativity I 725 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:07,290 know they they get more listeners to 726 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:09,090 were see gets I mean there's some of 727 00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:10,890 those some of the radio host some some 728 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:12,390 of Amma's the afternoon or just crazy 729 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:14,850 it's all doomsday you gotta do this you 730 00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:16,530 gotta do that the world's ending the 731 00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:18,030 currencies falling the governments are 732 00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:20,940 blowing up the it's like oh come on you 733 00:27:25,550 --> 00:27:23,790 know it's it's almost like you know it 734 00:27:27,170 --> 00:27:25,560 is unfortunately there are haters there 735 00:27:29,030 --> 00:27:27,180 is that that middle Jenner there a 736 00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:29,040 generation right now and it's all about 737 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:32,220 that and it's obviously a dead end road 738 00:27:37,010 --> 00:27:34,770 but in the younger people you see 739 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:37,020 brightness you see a hopeful future and 740 00:27:40,850 --> 00:27:38,730 that's where it's gonna come out of it 741 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:40,860 right no it's not you know not saying 742 00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:43,290 that you know that the the the big you 743 00:27:47,540 --> 00:27:44,760 know whatever these really political 744 00:27:49,010 --> 00:27:47,550 shows or radio shows they're all you 745 00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:49,020 know both sides is attacking and how 746 00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:51,240 awful things are so that's not solving 747 00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:52,620 anything that's just the faith and 748 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:53,910 they're dragging things down it's like 749 00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:56,010 it's the hope and then willing to look 750 00:27:59,720 --> 00:27:57,360 for the truth not being told the truth 751 00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:59,730 that's that's the key because there's 752 00:28:02,450 --> 00:28:00,960 all kinds of people tell you what their 753 00:28:04,460 --> 00:28:02,460 opinion is but people got realized 754 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:04,470 that's all it is it's just opinion and 755 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:05,970 the truth is there it's within yourself 756 00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:08,610 and I'm excited to see that movie to buy 757 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:09,840 my wife been talking about going here 758 00:28:13,670 --> 00:28:11,700 for a few days no see it's just like I'm 759 00:28:16,250 --> 00:28:13,680 you see this movement immediately go see 760 00:28:20,060 --> 00:28:16,260 it it's phenomena have to it's just like 761 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,070 my my father's wife actually does she 762 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:22,320 got hold of me and so they want and saw 763 00:28:27,410 --> 00:28:24,810 their dad texted all rainstorms and they 764 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:27,420 said they said without it was came out 765 00:28:30,410 --> 00:28:28,770 said my father would have really loved 766 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:30,420 it and I'm sure he would have it's too 767 00:28:34,430 --> 00:28:31,650 bad he wasn't around to see it but I 768 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:34,440 mean that that that idea of hope is 769 00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:36,210 what's going to carry us forward and I 770 00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:38,460 there's there's a lot of truth of being 771 00:28:42,980 --> 00:28:41,520 those positive energy ideas negativity 772 00:28:44,750 --> 00:28:42,990 will hold you back from your creativity 773 00:28:45,420 --> 00:28:44,760 will keep you from moving forward from 774 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:45,430 advanced 775 00:28:50,850 --> 00:28:48,850 here I you know I know right it'll keep 776 00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:50,860 you living and making decisions from a 777 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:52,480 position based on fear and that is 778 00:28:56,910 --> 00:28:54,610 ultimately what we need to do away from 779 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:56,920 in every way shape and form never ever 780 00:29:02,100 --> 00:28:58,690 let fear guide your life and ultimately 781 00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:02,110 also we need to move away from this this 782 00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:04,630 question of not only it on a on a royal 783 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:07,390 sense how does this affect me why does 784 00:29:12,150 --> 00:29:10,090 this affect me me me me me and into a 785 00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:12,160 how does this affect us what can we do 786 00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:14,950 for us it is a community we are a global 787 00:29:19,050 --> 00:29:16,720 community and I do think that there's a 788 00:29:21,150 --> 00:29:19,060 much bigger emphasis on that in the 789 00:29:23,250 --> 00:29:21,160 coming younger generations than there is 790 00:29:25,620 --> 00:29:23,260 on let's say the ones that are currently 791 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:25,630 in power because you do see very real 792 00:29:31,710 --> 00:29:28,570 examples of that being exercised whether 793 00:29:33,660 --> 00:29:31,720 it's the CEOs taking these extremely 794 00:29:35,550 --> 00:29:33,670 large bonuses and you know every year 795 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,560 making more money and very little 796 00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:37,120 trickling down to the actual work force 797 00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:38,620 of whatever conglomerate corporation 798 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:40,990 we're looking at or just any number of 799 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:43,690 examples we need to see less of the me 800 00:29:47,130 --> 00:29:45,730 and more of the US we are talking with 801 00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:47,140 Jesse Marcel jr. you're listening to 802 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:48,760 truth finders radio live on the 803 00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:50,650 inception or radio network my name is 804 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welcome back to truth lenders radio live 916 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:00,470 here on the inception radio network my 917 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:02,210 name is art web we are sans mark 918 00:35:06,130 --> 00:35:03,770 Schwartz this week's is off getting 919 00:35:08,290 --> 00:35:06,140 married of this upcoming saturday so 920 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:08,300 they'll be back next week we are joined 921 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:12,050 by jesse marcel junior 88 89 1923 55 is 922 00:35:17,830 --> 00:35:15,890 the telephone number 88 89 1923 55 is 923 00:35:20,050 --> 00:35:17,840 the telephone number joined by jesse i 924 00:35:23,830 --> 00:35:20,060 we appreciate him coming on and joining 925 00:35:25,060 --> 00:35:23,840 us once again a beer and Jessia now 926 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:25,070 getting away from what we were just 927 00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:26,210 speaking on and by the way if you want 928 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:27,710 to contribute to the conversation on the 929 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:30,650 more universal oval overall perspective 930 00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:34,010 and approach in attitude from people 931 00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:36,680 here on a global level you please feel 932 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:38,510 free to call in at any time table 3 933 00:35:42,730 --> 00:35:40,240 right up but i want to move on to 934 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:42,740 technology and like i said if you want 935 00:35:46,180 --> 00:35:44,510 to check out Jesse's project now at 936 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:46,190 truth funders calm we urge you to do 937 00:35:50,980 --> 00:35:48,650 that it is the Roswell I beam project 938 00:35:52,780 --> 00:35:50,990 over on truth funders calm please go 939 00:35:54,970 --> 00:35:52,790 check that out and contribute towards 940 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:54,980 Jesse's campaign but you also are 941 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:57,530 involved with the notion of something I 942 00:36:00,430 --> 00:35:58,610 just mentioned back to the future part 943 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:00,440 two a couple minutes ago that I've been 944 00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:02,810 clamoring for since that movie came out 945 00:36:06,250 --> 00:36:04,640 which is a flying DeLorean and when is 946 00:36:08,830 --> 00:36:06,260 my flying DeLorean conversion gonna 947 00:36:11,830 --> 00:36:08,840 happen you know hopefully right around 948 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:11,840 the corner that's what I'm saying since 949 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:14,450 1999 Jesse I any more any more than that 950 00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:16,370 right around the corners not that's not 951 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:18,200 concrete enough for me tell us about a 952 00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:19,370 little bit about your involvement with 953 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:22,910 the concept of flying cars and what your 954 00:36:27,370 --> 00:36:25,130 contribution to that field isn't really 955 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:27,380 like what you are doing now as a result 956 00:36:32,170 --> 00:36:29,690 of being having been involved rather 957 00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:32,180 with that for such a long time I mean 958 00:36:35,620 --> 00:36:34,070 years you've been doing this right yeah 959 00:36:38,350 --> 00:36:35,630 if you don't mind a long winded version 960 00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:38,360 the I any Content my friend marks on you 961 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:41,200 gotta interrupt us in toxic yeah pleased 962 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:43,610 with that with you know what with 963 00:36:47,020 --> 00:36:44,690 Roswell and growing up in that 964 00:36:50,350 --> 00:36:47,030 atmosphere then my father is actually a 965 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:50,360 very brilliant physicist as well that in 966 00:36:54,610 --> 00:36:52,970 fact you know he had he's done he did so 967 00:36:56,530 --> 00:36:54,620 a lot of amazing things like I think I 968 00:36:57,580 --> 00:36:56,540 said the last time I'll shows like you 969 00:36:59,230 --> 00:36:57,590 know for 970 00:37:01,960 --> 00:36:59,240 products in the basement of the house we 971 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:01,970 built an atom smasher we did he was 972 00:37:05,620 --> 00:37:04,370 designing silicon solar cells produce 973 00:37:07,410 --> 00:37:05,630 such a thing you know like I think it's 974 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:07,420 very brilliant cutting edge and 975 00:37:12,370 --> 00:37:10,130 obviously that trickled down the 976 00:37:16,030 --> 00:37:12,380 information a certain way to thinking 977 00:37:18,340 --> 00:37:16,040 and my greatest love is probably in 978 00:37:20,170 --> 00:37:18,350 science fiction Jim you know I did that 979 00:37:22,750 --> 00:37:20,180 as far as you know the thinking and the 980 00:37:24,340 --> 00:37:22,760 futuristic ideas and you know part of 981 00:37:26,140 --> 00:37:24,350 that it was the idea of flying cars that 982 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:26,150 kind of thing but I kind of took a 983 00:37:29,470 --> 00:37:27,530 different there's actually some they're 984 00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:29,480 approaching you know they're a reality 985 00:37:34,930 --> 00:37:32,240 of you know of planes or planes and have 986 00:37:36,250 --> 00:37:34,940 folding wings that can fly although it's 987 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:36,260 kind of funny there's actually such a 988 00:37:40,690 --> 00:37:39,170 thing back in the 20s and then where 989 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:40,700 they shud folding wings and so be able 990 00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:41,690 to go down the highway they could put 991 00:37:47,830 --> 00:37:43,880 the wings on takeoff so that idea my 992 00:37:49,690 --> 00:37:47,840 purse 18 19 20 has been around literally 993 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:49,700 has been around since the 1920s I mean 994 00:37:54,820 --> 00:37:52,970 when did 1927 I think there's a just on 995 00:37:56,350 --> 00:37:54,830 my facebook somebody posted on my 996 00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:56,360 timeline it was an old black-and-white 997 00:38:00,910 --> 00:37:58,490 film where they actually back in 1927 998 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:00,920 they had this really futures of car 999 00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:02,690 thing that they hooked wings on and 1000 00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:04,460 drove it down the street then went out 1001 00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:06,320 to the desert flew off it's kind of cool 1002 00:38:12,820 --> 00:38:09,830 it's no way it's so yes I'm for a while 1003 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:12,830 but they have there is a you know and 1004 00:38:17,550 --> 00:38:14,810 there's there's a most of the market is 1005 00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:17,560 chasing that in the idea of creating a 1006 00:38:22,450 --> 00:38:19,760 transportation system you can take off 1007 00:38:24,610 --> 00:38:22,460 at the airport in atlanta at some other 1008 00:38:26,650 --> 00:38:24,620 airport fold the wings up and then drive 1009 00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:26,660 to drive to dinner what you say and that 1010 00:38:30,610 --> 00:38:28,640 is that is the common the commonly 1011 00:38:33,490 --> 00:38:30,620 accepted idea because from a regulatory 1012 00:38:35,140 --> 00:38:33,500 standpoint there's a lot of ins and outs 1013 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:35,150 that would go into really getting this 1014 00:38:40,420 --> 00:38:37,850 to be a thing that is publicly at used 1015 00:38:43,630 --> 00:38:40,430 in you know viable i mean you is it the 1016 00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:43,640 faa that's involved is it the the the 1017 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:45,500 traffic department that's involved to me 1018 00:38:49,570 --> 00:38:47,090 who really regulates all this to begin 1019 00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:49,580 with and how do they do it it's question 1020 00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:52,160 it's the FAA is actually going to take 1021 00:38:56,590 --> 00:38:55,040 it up in 20-25 Esther that's their date 1022 00:38:59,140 --> 00:38:56,600 to take a bit of technology's going to 1023 00:39:01,210 --> 00:38:59,150 catch up by 2025 words be good this is 1024 00:39:03,070 --> 00:39:01,220 good of herbs may become necessary to 1025 00:39:05,590 --> 00:39:03,080 create the rules regulations that kind 1026 00:39:07,330 --> 00:39:05,600 of thing for the flying car I mean part 1027 00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,340 what's the problem right now is when you 1028 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:09,040 have if you have a flying car 1029 00:39:13,860 --> 00:39:10,570 wings can fold that kind of thing is it 1030 00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:13,870 also has to be rolled legal and yet feel 1031 00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:16,150 unsure it always kind of things to kind 1032 00:39:19,530 --> 00:39:17,950 of wedge it in to what's available out I 1033 00:39:21,540 --> 00:39:19,540 didn't even think about the insurance of 1034 00:39:23,180 --> 00:39:21,550 sixteen-year-olds fly yeah it's there is 1035 00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:23,190 something there are some complications 1036 00:39:29,220 --> 00:39:26,320 like I'm taking a totally different look 1037 00:39:31,830 --> 00:39:29,230 at it a different view of it um please 1038 00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:31,840 elaborate on you learn in your approach 1039 00:39:35,490 --> 00:39:34,360 I'm sorry was that I was just saying 1040 00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:35,500 please go ahead and elaborate on your 1041 00:39:40,740 --> 00:39:37,060 approach and kind of perspective all 1042 00:39:43,830 --> 00:39:40,750 right what I'm doing is it involves of 1043 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:43,840 just basically applying existing 1044 00:39:48,270 --> 00:39:45,850 technologies everything based on a 1045 00:39:51,330 --> 00:39:48,280 gyroscope basically a gyroscope to can 1046 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:51,340 take they can create lift and being able 1047 00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:52,810 doing I mean it still pushes air that's 1048 00:39:55,710 --> 00:39:53,950 how that's what that's what creates the 1049 00:39:59,160 --> 00:39:55,720 thrust by pushing her around but it's 1050 00:40:00,750 --> 00:39:59,170 all a very balanced system and and you 1051 00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:00,760 know a couple things why if I want 1052 00:40:04,350 --> 00:40:02,800 something you know at this point you 1053 00:40:06,690 --> 00:40:04,360 know being honest it's more of a toy 1054 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:06,700 than a than actual something you'd want 1055 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:09,130 to fly back and forth to work in you can 1056 00:40:14,010 --> 00:40:10,930 be used for that it's more of a hobby 1057 00:40:16,350 --> 00:40:14,020 machine what then and I thought yeah 1058 00:40:17,850 --> 00:40:16,360 well it's kind of like you know who's 1059 00:40:19,410 --> 00:40:17,860 the market you know I've been approached 1060 00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:19,420 by a number of people that want to buy 1061 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:20,560 the missiles were done producing them 1062 00:40:25,740 --> 00:40:22,630 and they're typically somebody who is 1063 00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:25,750 some kind of exotic car um who's really 1064 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:28,060 into extreme sports you know those kind 1065 00:40:34,650 --> 00:40:30,130 of things and that's really where this 1066 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:34,660 is falls into is it it's like like the 1067 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:36,250 way the way old work is like you know 1068 00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:37,510 it's something that's simpler to be 1069 00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:38,980 parking your garage plug in your garage 1070 00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:42,160 so let's all electrical um you can you 1071 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:44,800 can it you can't actually power it down 1072 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:45,970 the row if you want to it's not designed 1073 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:48,370 to but it's mostly power to power to 1074 00:40:53,610 --> 00:40:50,410 your driveway and then it becomes more 1075 00:40:57,090 --> 00:40:53,620 of a hovercraft in a way it'll hover a 1076 00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:57,100 few inches off the road and then uh it 1077 00:41:00,000 --> 00:40:58,450 has the base of what kind of the 1078 00:41:02,430 --> 00:41:00,010 function what what kind of propulsion is 1079 00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:02,440 generating this hover effect that is 1080 00:41:07,010 --> 00:41:04,270 getting on you said a few inches off the 1081 00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:07,020 road essentially yeah I'll ducted fans 1082 00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:09,640 okay say its Air Base Air can push down 1083 00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:11,920 to propel it up in the same way like 1084 00:41:17,970 --> 00:41:15,040 airier aircraft works exactly i mean it 1085 00:41:19,950 --> 00:41:17,980 has enough power that you could it'll go 1086 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:19,960 it does have a pressurized cabin so you 1087 00:41:24,070 --> 00:41:21,890 go to 8,000 feet if you want to 1088 00:41:25,930 --> 00:41:24,080 with that there is no issue with that as 1089 00:41:28,810 --> 00:41:25,940 far as the ability to the car but the 1090 00:41:30,610 --> 00:41:28,820 reality comes down to you know is that 1091 00:41:32,770 --> 00:41:30,620 really safe of course not it is you know 1092 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:32,780 it's at the realm of more of an airplane 1093 00:41:36,130 --> 00:41:34,730 or a helicopter yes you know not that 1094 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:36,140 this could be evolved into something 1095 00:41:40,690 --> 00:41:38,690 like that but my idea was actually you 1096 00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:40,700 know in a science fiction world you know 1097 00:41:44,110 --> 00:41:42,710 you were you're literally flying over a 1098 00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:44,120 surface maybe 10 feet off the ground 1099 00:41:49,780 --> 00:41:47,510 where you're able to you know and that 1100 00:41:51,490 --> 00:41:49,790 sucks where the field for this is going 1101 00:41:53,860 --> 00:41:51,500 to be although it could fly very high 1102 00:41:56,530 --> 00:41:53,870 it's going to be s is going to be if 1103 00:41:58,540 --> 00:41:56,540 you're within 10 feet of the ground it's 1104 00:41:59,890 --> 00:41:58,550 the the huey helicopter is the same kind 1105 00:42:02,140 --> 00:41:59,900 of system they're designed to be able to 1106 00:42:03,310 --> 00:42:02,150 freefall from 10 feet without breaking 1107 00:42:05,590 --> 00:42:03,320 up or you're getting her that kind of 1108 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:05,600 thing exact same same thing this way it 1109 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:07,490 actually it actually rides right on top 1110 00:42:12,910 --> 00:42:10,370 of basically the air that's coming out 1111 00:42:14,590 --> 00:42:12,920 of the rotors hits the ground I'm going 1112 00:42:16,540 --> 00:42:14,600 to bounce back up and you kind of float 1113 00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:16,550 along on that it's kind of a cushion so 1114 00:42:20,530 --> 00:42:18,800 you can float along at about 10 feet off 1115 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:20,540 the ground for quite a ways if that's if 1116 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:22,010 that's what you want to do and ideally 1117 00:42:26,890 --> 00:42:24,650 you know the idea of being able to you 1118 00:42:28,750 --> 00:42:26,900 know navigate at least through the 1119 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:28,760 desert or through a cut through the 1120 00:42:33,070 --> 00:42:31,370 countryside and 10 feet off the road I 1121 00:42:35,950 --> 00:42:33,080 mean it to me it gives me goose bumps 1122 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:35,960 but the possibilities of what you can do 1123 00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:37,610 with something like this like I said 1124 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:39,110 it'll do everything that people are 1125 00:42:42,460 --> 00:42:40,850 talking about is 40 I want to flying car 1126 00:42:44,380 --> 00:42:42,470 that I could you know that I can fly 1127 00:42:46,660 --> 00:42:44,390 above the clouds well yeah I mean you 1128 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:46,670 could but honestly the parameters are 1129 00:42:50,650 --> 00:42:49,010 sir probably be sent to avoid you know 1130 00:42:53,470 --> 00:42:50,660 certain problems certain regulations 1131 00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:53,480 that kind of thing are going to be if I 1132 00:42:56,170 --> 00:42:55,310 can alter like airplane in a way that's 1133 00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:56,180 a desk where is going to be actually 1134 00:43:01,030 --> 00:42:58,880 legalized but it is not real license 1135 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:01,040 involved the crap itself will teach you 1136 00:43:04,750 --> 00:43:03,050 how to fly it but you know in general 1137 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:04,760 you're just gonna be flying a few feet 1138 00:43:11,110 --> 00:43:07,490 off the ground in a push of air do you 1139 00:43:13,690 --> 00:43:11,120 see a circumstance where we are in a 1140 00:43:16,090 --> 00:43:13,700 position on a society that the 1141 00:43:18,370 --> 00:43:16,100 technology will present itself and make 1142 00:43:20,170 --> 00:43:18,380 itself available before the government 1143 00:43:21,730 --> 00:43:20,180 and regulations have time to catch up 1144 00:43:23,410 --> 00:43:21,740 and really be prepared I mean do you 1145 00:43:24,970 --> 00:43:23,420 think they're going to be caught with 1146 00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:24,980 their pants down so to speak in such a 1147 00:43:28,780 --> 00:43:26,720 way that oh my god these flying cars are 1148 00:43:30,910 --> 00:43:28,790 now being mass-produced and being made 1149 00:43:33,820 --> 00:43:30,920 available to people we got to get on it 1150 00:43:35,470 --> 00:43:33,830 and start to figure out how all this is 1151 00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:35,480 going to be regulated because I 1152 00:43:39,370 --> 00:43:37,040 in the way that you're describing it if 1153 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:39,380 it is right around the corner and from 1154 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:41,330 my position with the technology exists 1155 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:42,890 at this point in day and age to really 1156 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:44,330 do anything I mean if you want talk 1157 00:43:47,530 --> 00:43:46,130 about singularity in and of itself like 1158 00:43:49,690 --> 00:43:47,540 we're coming to a point where we're 1159 00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:49,700 gonna exponentially like figure out 1160 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:53,510 everything I see a problem arising 1161 00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:54,650 whereas these things are going to be 1162 00:44:00,370 --> 00:43:58,330 made available and it's not just overall 1163 00:44:02,590 --> 00:44:00,380 structure of society's not gonna be 1164 00:44:04,060 --> 00:44:02,600 ready for it now and that's that's right 1165 00:44:05,740 --> 00:44:04,070 the like you know it's kind of us going 1166 00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:05,750 out to quad copters right now the 1167 00:44:09,550 --> 00:44:07,369 technology is exceeding the ability for 1168 00:44:12,070 --> 00:44:09,560 the government to create regulations and 1169 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:12,080 that's what I mean that's it away you're 1170 00:44:17,290 --> 00:44:14,930 creating a market so it's good I mean 1171 00:44:18,910 --> 00:44:17,300 you gotta you know in a way you're going 1172 00:44:20,380 --> 00:44:18,920 to kind of force the hand for the 1173 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:20,390 regulation that your regulatory agencies 1174 00:44:25,930 --> 00:44:23,210 to create a you know the instruments to 1175 00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:25,940 create a safe flying field or pathways 1176 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:27,710 those kind of things like right now 1177 00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:29,690 honestly where we're working out of us 1178 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:31,609 you know it dubai in those kind of 1179 00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:32,810 countries have we have a lot of people 1180 00:44:36,730 --> 00:44:34,609 to come back to want to buy them there 1181 00:44:39,609 --> 00:44:36,740 aren't the kind of regulations you like 1182 00:44:41,020 --> 00:44:39,619 so that's right by the deserts and a lot 1183 00:44:42,580 --> 00:44:41,030 of these guys will have the you know 1184 00:44:45,370 --> 00:44:42,590 your Bugatti Veyrons and those kind of 1185 00:44:46,510 --> 00:44:45,380 things and this is just another toy but 1186 00:44:48,970 --> 00:44:46,520 it's something that actually know they 1187 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:48,980 they don't fly out the road sir but it's 1188 00:44:54,430 --> 00:44:51,050 a whole new area it doesn't exist yet 1189 00:44:56,310 --> 00:44:54,440 not in a stable way anyway but as far as 1190 00:44:59,830 --> 00:44:56,320 where we're at on it I mean I have 1191 00:45:02,200 --> 00:44:59,840 everybody from Lamborghini involved as 1192 00:45:05,140 --> 00:45:02,210 far as making tubs for the thing I am 1193 00:45:08,220 --> 00:45:05,150 huge so there's very serious interest in 1194 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:08,230 very serious research being done by 1195 00:45:13,180 --> 00:45:10,850 notable and reputable vehicle companies 1196 00:45:15,820 --> 00:45:13,190 to get involved with this and get it out 1197 00:45:17,890 --> 00:45:15,830 as a product as soon as possible yeah it 1198 00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:17,900 is really I mean it's not even like say 1199 00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:19,609 you know that what's beautiful today 1200 00:45:23,290 --> 00:45:21,440 about technology and then computers and 1201 00:45:25,930 --> 00:45:23,300 that kind of thing is that you can you 1202 00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,940 know we can test flow everything we can 1203 00:45:30,670 --> 00:45:27,440 test the whole thing before building it 1204 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:30,680 before building it and we were there all 1205 00:45:34,750 --> 00:45:32,330 it's happened they know that the last 1206 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:34,760 I've had the concept for a number of 1207 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:36,650 years now and actually sat down to the 1208 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:37,970 design work in the last couple of years 1209 00:45:41,770 --> 00:45:40,490 and originally we had one that working 1210 00:45:43,780 --> 00:45:41,780 with an energy drink company is a 1211 00:45:46,510 --> 00:45:43,790 one-seater they want to be able to they 1212 00:45:48,130 --> 00:45:46,520 want to they want it to use it to fly 1213 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:48,140 into it i think i was told like the 1214 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:49,010 super bowl 1215 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:50,810 is kind of like you know with her with 1216 00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:52,490 their banners on the side to build fly 1217 00:45:55,180 --> 00:45:53,720 it over the edge and down around the 1218 00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:55,190 field and flied out again there's kind 1219 00:45:59,230 --> 00:45:57,890 of a cool idea and then but we've been 1220 00:46:00,850 --> 00:45:59,240 really busy actually I've been really 1221 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:00,860 busy we're designing a two-seater right 1222 00:46:05,710 --> 00:46:03,530 now and it's it's pretty much all ready 1223 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:05,720 to go right that the company's the pipe 1224 00:46:09,340 --> 00:46:06,890 now we're ready to just go ahead and 1225 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:09,350 start manufacturing um that's we're 1226 00:46:13,570 --> 00:46:10,850 actually flown or driven like a 1227 00:46:15,460 --> 00:46:13,580 prototype and a physical working model 1228 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:15,470 of that's that that won't happen 1229 00:46:20,110 --> 00:46:17,930 probably into we're shooting for 1230 00:46:21,370 --> 00:46:20,120 December of this year but you're 1231 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:21,380 shooting for this year I mean this isn't 1232 00:46:24,730 --> 00:46:23,330 okay so this isn't like how we hope to 1233 00:46:26,020 --> 00:46:24,740 maybe be there in two or three years or 1234 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:26,030 in five years I mean you all know it's 1235 00:46:30,850 --> 00:46:29,210 an jable date set for by the end of 2015 1236 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:30,860 we are going to be driving around these 1237 00:46:36,490 --> 00:46:32,930 goddamn thing oh I know I I have vivid 1238 00:46:37,900 --> 00:46:36,500 people behind me that we know we we will 1239 00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:37,910 have something out there by the end of 1240 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:40,310 the year uh you know it'll be like I 1241 00:46:43,810 --> 00:46:42,170 said it's gonna be more of like a you 1242 00:46:47,290 --> 00:46:43,820 know what do you want to call it uh you 1243 00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:47,300 know it'll be a you know not you would 1244 00:46:50,290 --> 00:46:48,710 see him day to day or something like 1245 00:46:52,690 --> 00:46:50,300 that but they will definitely be 1246 00:46:55,540 --> 00:46:52,700 available and like I said we're already 1247 00:46:57,820 --> 00:46:55,550 creating a market overseas for selling 1248 00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:57,830 them and that it'll eventually catch up 1249 00:47:02,610 --> 00:47:00,560 here just like ours let me ask you a 1250 00:47:05,620 --> 00:47:02,620 question do you see flying cars or 1251 00:47:08,260 --> 00:47:05,630 commercial space travel as working 1252 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:08,270 itself first into the fabric of society 1253 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:10,010 which one do you see becoming widely 1254 00:47:16,180 --> 00:47:12,650 available for consumers first flying 1255 00:47:18,940 --> 00:47:16,190 cars are so much easier interesting you 1256 00:47:20,770 --> 00:47:18,950 know rages the hawk there's so much talk 1257 00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:20,780 about some commercial space travel in 1258 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:22,640 Richard Branson and his involvement and 1259 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:23,930 uh you know I think Tesla's getting 1260 00:47:28,090 --> 00:47:25,490 involved with that stuff too and not a 1261 00:47:29,710 --> 00:47:28,100 whole lot of a wide discussion on flying 1262 00:47:32,530 --> 00:47:29,720 cars so it's really going to blindside 1263 00:47:34,180 --> 00:47:32,540 the public in a lot of ways yeah it's 1264 00:47:36,970 --> 00:47:34,190 well it's interesting because I mean for 1265 00:47:39,070 --> 00:47:36,980 one thing there is there's a kind of 1266 00:47:40,660 --> 00:47:39,080 crawl them but there is there's some 1267 00:47:42,670 --> 00:47:40,670 people been flirting around these ideas 1268 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:42,680 for decades just have been able to make 1269 00:47:47,650 --> 00:47:44,810 it to come together but it's just you 1270 00:47:49,450 --> 00:47:47,660 know for lack of whatever you know our 1271 00:47:52,450 --> 00:47:49,460 design looks like I mean it works really 1272 00:47:54,220 --> 00:47:52,460 well and we we have to use the latest 1273 00:47:55,810 --> 00:47:54,230 technology we're not using something 1274 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:55,820 we're not we're not going off an idea 1275 00:47:59,530 --> 00:47:57,530 that was created 30 years ago or 80 1276 00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:59,540 years ago those kind of things it's only 1277 00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:00,960 now that's even going to be able to 1278 00:48:04,370 --> 00:48:02,880 impossible to work quite honestly just 1279 00:48:06,589 --> 00:48:04,380 because the energy density available in 1280 00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:06,599 batteries and the new certain other 1281 00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:08,160 profiles were able to use it simply 1282 00:48:14,839 --> 00:48:11,760 didn't exist even 10 or 15 years ago so 1283 00:48:17,630 --> 00:48:14,849 it's just the timing is now and it's one 1284 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:17,640 of those things that I you know I don't 1285 00:48:20,270 --> 00:48:18,810 know how many things are going on in 1286 00:48:21,740 --> 00:48:20,280 people's garages around the world right 1287 00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:21,750 now kind of with you know they're trying 1288 00:48:25,609 --> 00:48:23,160 to cobble together some kind of an idea 1289 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:25,619 like this like I said well I think we're 1290 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:27,210 on the leading edge ourselves as far as 1291 00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:29,010 a company and where we're heading we 1292 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:31,710 definitely have I mean I that what we 1293 00:48:36,589 --> 00:48:34,050 have over a dozen engineers we have it 1294 00:48:40,609 --> 00:48:36,599 work out every little part of it there 1295 00:48:43,310 --> 00:48:40,619 is it's become a uh it's obviously for 1296 00:48:45,140 --> 00:48:43,320 me again it's this is this is a passion 1297 00:48:48,410 --> 00:48:45,150 this is my joy this is my excitement and 1298 00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:48,420 I'm kind of in elasto really two years 1299 00:48:54,410 --> 00:48:50,400 devoted it'sit's kind of time in my life 1300 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:54,420 after I was I got out of college became 1301 00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:56,640 an investment banker for a long time and 1302 00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:59,010 then when those kind of shape with any 1303 00:49:02,780 --> 00:49:00,960 way that my whole life was kind of going 1304 00:49:04,730 --> 00:49:02,790 in a direction that as a child I didn't 1305 00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:04,740 want to go and and it just for some 1306 00:49:07,579 --> 00:49:06,089 reason slapped me in the face a few 1307 00:49:09,050 --> 00:49:07,589 years ago thinking that I want to get to 1308 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:09,060 back to where I want to be as a kid and 1309 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:11,010 that's doing design work in this kind of 1310 00:49:16,849 --> 00:49:13,290 a vehicle and and that's where it's gone 1311 00:49:18,980 --> 00:49:16,859 so I all my passions in this and it's 1312 00:49:21,530 --> 00:49:18,990 you know it unfortunately have I have 1313 00:49:22,990 --> 00:49:21,540 the right ideas and the right smart 1314 00:49:25,220 --> 00:49:23,000 people behind me to make it all happen 1315 00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:25,230 so it's it's been an exciting journey 1316 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:26,910 and is if anything it's getting more 1317 00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,170 exciting and things are starting to move 1318 00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:30,480 air every day I think something happens 1319 00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:32,160 is moving a lot faster and faster it's 1320 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:35,910 crazy 88 89 1923 55 is the telephone 1321 00:49:38,900 --> 00:49:37,050 number if you'd like to join us here 1322 00:49:43,070 --> 00:49:38,910 live on truth funders radio with Jesse 1323 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:43,080 Marcel jr. 8 8 8 9 192 355 we encourage 1324 00:49:47,089 --> 00:49:45,570 your telephone calls and a contribution 1325 00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:47,099 to the conversation you know this this 1326 00:49:50,810 --> 00:49:49,470 brings me to a almost kind of like a 1327 00:49:52,010 --> 00:49:50,820 full circle point on what we were 1328 00:49:54,770 --> 00:49:52,020 discussing towards the beginning of the 1329 00:49:58,250 --> 00:49:54,780 show and that it is that need for 1330 00:50:00,560 --> 00:49:58,260 optimism and fresh perspective that will 1331 00:50:02,270 --> 00:50:00,570 create the passion and the drive for 1332 00:50:04,010 --> 00:50:02,280 people to really accomplish these things 1333 00:50:05,540 --> 00:50:04,020 I mean like you said this is something 1334 00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:05,550 you've been involved with for years and 1335 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:08,310 been passionate about for years and with 1336 00:50:13,790 --> 00:50:10,650 the hopes of really being able to 1337 00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:13,800 accomplish it in a tangible commercial 1338 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:14,880 way by the end of 1339 00:50:18,859 --> 00:50:16,890 this year those are the types of things 1340 00:50:21,410 --> 00:50:18,869 that we need to inspire future 1341 00:50:23,509 --> 00:50:21,420 generations and that's amazing that 1342 00:50:25,940 --> 00:50:23,519 you're at this point I mean for is it's 1343 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:25,950 dark and scary is everything has been on 1344 00:50:28,910 --> 00:50:27,690 a global scale for some time now it's 1345 00:50:31,069 --> 00:50:28,920 amazing that there are still people out 1346 00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:31,079 there finding ways to be excited about 1347 00:50:35,749 --> 00:50:32,700 the future and innovate and push 1348 00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:35,759 boundaries and create and that does lead 1349 00:50:39,620 --> 00:50:37,920 me to ask you cosmetically speaking in 1350 00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:39,630 terms of just the design and the way 1351 00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,160 these things like how much of it is 1352 00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:43,680 inspired by old sci-fi movies like back 1353 00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:44,880 to the future part two and things like 1354 00:50:49,700 --> 00:50:46,529 that I mean that those are really the 1355 00:50:51,019 --> 00:50:49,710 general seeds of inspiration on these 1356 00:50:53,059 --> 00:50:51,029 things are they not I mean seeing them 1357 00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:53,069 in an in film and wanting that to be 1358 00:50:58,370 --> 00:50:56,160 reality yeah you know I mean the actual 1359 00:51:00,079 --> 00:50:58,380 design it there the way it's actually 1360 00:51:01,279 --> 00:51:00,089 you know the design is based for air 1361 00:51:02,839 --> 00:51:01,289 flow but bait more than anything like 1362 00:51:04,249 --> 00:51:02,849 that and that's it almost has an 1363 00:51:05,809 --> 00:51:04,259 appearance of a sports car there's the 1364 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:05,819 reason for that is because it happens to 1365 00:51:10,329 --> 00:51:07,890 be a very nice aerodynamic gonna get a 1366 00:51:14,299 --> 00:51:10,339 custom now it's not going absolutely but 1367 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:14,309 no like a boy one of those is not that 1368 00:51:18,410 --> 00:51:16,650 old Schwarzenegger movie uh there's a 1369 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:18,420 there's some toys where they have that 1370 00:51:22,190 --> 00:51:20,490 came out there doing these flying cars 1371 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:22,200 and they're all futuristic and I and 1372 00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,650 honestly it's very very inspiring the 1373 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:27,839 the actual concept of the flying car if 1374 00:51:32,210 --> 00:51:30,210 I go out of the out of the envelope a 1375 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:32,220 little bit is I've been designing a 1376 00:51:37,339 --> 00:51:34,890 motor so its inertia which means static 1377 00:51:40,579 --> 00:51:37,349 but it creates momentum at a static 1378 00:51:43,940 --> 00:51:40,589 point and there's all kinds of names for 1379 00:51:46,609 --> 00:51:43,950 that but it literally would be like a 1380 00:51:49,309 --> 00:51:46,619 sphere that would if you held your hands 1381 00:51:50,990 --> 00:51:49,319 we'd want to pull in a direction the 1382 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:51,000 energy energy is created with inside of 1383 00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,490 it and where the ideas about this car 1384 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:55,440 was I want to create a platform the 1385 00:52:00,140 --> 00:51:57,450 right can harness a new technology and 1386 00:52:02,569 --> 00:52:00,150 be able to use that those spheres in the 1387 00:52:04,490 --> 00:52:02,579 corners would actually not today it 1388 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:04,500 maybe not for a decade but eventually 1389 00:52:07,940 --> 00:52:06,450 get to the point where a technology 1390 00:52:10,849 --> 00:52:07,950 could take place that would move around 1391 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:10,859 without without pushing air to to create 1392 00:52:16,910 --> 00:52:12,930 motion you'd actually be able to create 1393 00:52:18,620 --> 00:52:16,920 an under a static inertia with a static 1394 00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:18,630 inertia that creates an individual force 1395 00:52:24,890 --> 00:52:21,359 or vectored force the idea about that is 1396 00:52:27,859 --> 00:52:24,900 eventually you can see it's like a big 1397 00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:27,869 jet aircraft in the center of that jet 1398 00:52:30,620 --> 00:52:28,380 aircraft 1399 00:52:32,210 --> 00:52:30,630 be a huge sphere and there would be no 1400 00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:32,220 jet engines hanging on the outside edge 1401 00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:34,079 there wouldn't be any jet fuel or like 1402 00:52:37,999 --> 00:52:35,849 that would be all electric and it would 1403 00:52:39,499 --> 00:52:38,009 be perfectly silent that energy with 1404 00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:39,509 inside the airplane would push it or 1405 00:52:43,579 --> 00:52:41,609 pull it and you be able to go through 1406 00:52:44,839 --> 00:52:43,589 the air the wings will still use create 1407 00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:44,849 the vacuums over the way its cradle it 1408 00:52:49,609 --> 00:52:47,730 up debt cetera but the actual source of 1409 00:52:53,509 --> 00:52:49,619 energy would be accredit through a new 1410 00:52:55,970 --> 00:52:53,519 technology and it works you know I can 1411 00:52:58,460 --> 00:52:55,980 make work in a very small level but 1412 00:53:00,289 --> 00:52:58,470 that's but that's where I'm excited 1413 00:53:01,940 --> 00:53:00,299 about is it this doing these kind of 1414 00:53:04,069 --> 00:53:01,950 projects puts me closer to being able to 1415 00:53:05,779 --> 00:53:04,079 develop that technology it really is a 1416 00:53:08,509 --> 00:53:05,789 race to the finish line in a lot of ways 1417 00:53:11,420 --> 00:53:08,519 with your competition and the with the 1418 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:11,430 growing technology and feeding off one 1419 00:53:14,660 --> 00:53:13,170 another will that can do that maybe this 1420 00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:14,670 can do that and it's a back-and-forth 1421 00:53:17,870 --> 00:53:16,710 it's a volley between you and the 1422 00:53:19,339 --> 00:53:17,880 current technology in the way it's 1423 00:53:21,289 --> 00:53:19,349 developing in such a way that it's got 1424 00:53:23,089 --> 00:53:21,299 to be exciting and a lot of ways 1425 00:53:24,859 --> 00:53:23,099 overwhelming too because you have to 1426 00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:24,869 maybe go back a step or two and say well 1427 00:53:29,029 --> 00:53:26,400 [\h__\h] if this can do this then maybe I 1428 00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:29,039 can apply it in this way is such a math 1429 00:53:32,990 --> 00:53:30,329 equation that it's overwhelming to me 1430 00:53:34,759 --> 00:53:33,000 honestly okay that's and it's kind of 1431 00:53:37,009 --> 00:53:34,769 funny sigh we're going on this roads 1432 00:53:38,660 --> 00:53:37,019 kind of fits back to work before is that 1433 00:53:40,579 --> 00:53:38,670 I've been approached by some very large 1434 00:53:43,309 --> 00:53:40,589 corporations that want to come in and 1435 00:53:47,269 --> 00:53:43,319 Grace Lee grab this grab me let's make 1436 00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:47,279 this thing big and although on some 1437 00:53:50,809 --> 00:53:48,960 sense on a financial sense that might be 1438 00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:50,819 kind of nice but on the other sense I've 1439 00:53:56,839 --> 00:53:54,240 decided to push those off because these 1440 00:53:58,819 --> 00:53:56,849 kind of ideas and technologies aren't 1441 00:54:00,559 --> 00:53:58,829 going to happen with huge corporations 1442 00:54:03,289 --> 00:54:00,569 and huge companies they're going to 1443 00:54:05,660 --> 00:54:03,299 happen with small very fast-moving Mike 1444 00:54:06,799 --> 00:54:05,670 other feet and you know what you have to 1445 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:06,809 move quickly to because these 1446 00:54:10,099 --> 00:54:08,490 corporations are so much red tape and 1447 00:54:12,769 --> 00:54:10,109 the things they must go through before 1448 00:54:14,029 --> 00:54:12,779 they even get to any kind of actual 1449 00:54:15,710 --> 00:54:14,039 manufacturing or work being done that 1450 00:54:18,259 --> 00:54:15,720 it's just not gonna work that way no it 1451 00:54:20,359 --> 00:54:18,269 does yet it was bloated huge bloated 1452 00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:20,369 eating mine endings and meetings and 1453 00:54:22,910 --> 00:54:21,660 meetings and meetings and meetings and 1454 00:54:25,069 --> 00:54:22,920 meetings and meetings a meeting it's 1455 00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:25,079 just all meetings yeah that's and I 1456 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:26,880 beside it's like you know although you 1457 00:54:29,900 --> 00:54:28,650 know that that is that that is a way 1458 00:54:31,069 --> 00:54:29,910 that things are done of course but it's 1459 00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:31,079 like that's why I decided you know I'm 1460 00:54:34,730 --> 00:54:32,880 going to keep it the company this plane 1461 00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:34,740 is going to be small light and very fast 1462 00:54:40,009 --> 00:54:38,609 moving very very we're able to wear 1463 00:54:42,140 --> 00:54:40,019 move in the right direction very quickly 1464 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:42,150 we don't have a big big board of Board 1465 00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:44,730 of Directors is going to have to be you 1466 00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:46,319 know although is a corporation sort of 1467 00:54:50,029 --> 00:54:48,089 small board directors but there is you 1468 00:54:51,470 --> 00:54:50,039 know the part the point is we create 1469 00:54:54,499 --> 00:54:51,480 something's fast-moving and kinetic and 1470 00:54:56,839 --> 00:54:54,509 can you know harness these technologies 1471 00:54:58,940 --> 00:54:56,849 and things never set out to versatility 1472 00:55:00,380 --> 00:54:58,950 really is an essential aspect as well 1473 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:00,390 and I need to be able to change on a 1474 00:55:03,890 --> 00:55:02,249 dime it's funny how the the business 1475 00:55:05,359 --> 00:55:03,900 approach is quite emblematic of the 1476 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:05,369 product itself and what you're creating 1477 00:55:09,859 --> 00:55:06,930 I mean there's a lot of similarities 1478 00:55:11,809 --> 00:55:09,869 there one of the chat room listeners or 1479 00:55:12,979 --> 00:55:11,819 one of the folks listening right now to 1480 00:55:15,229 --> 00:55:12,989 the show who's currently in the chat 1481 00:55:16,759 --> 00:55:15,239 room Steven had a question I he wants to 1482 00:55:19,489 --> 00:55:16,769 know if there is somewhere that people 1483 00:55:22,190 --> 00:55:19,499 can go to actively follow the progress 1484 00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:22,200 of this and the vehicle and just read 1485 00:55:25,849 --> 00:55:23,730 about developments as they're happening 1486 00:55:27,799 --> 00:55:25,859 leading up to December is there anywhere 1487 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:27,809 you can send people listening right now 1488 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:29,249 that would be interested in following up 1489 00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:32,210 more on this yep if you go to airborne 1490 00:55:38,779 --> 00:55:36,329 motors com airborne motor prism is my 1491 00:55:42,410 --> 00:55:38,789 company but airborne motors com a ir b 0 1492 00:55:44,660 --> 00:55:42,420 RN e and motors com there's you can go 1493 00:55:46,609 --> 00:55:44,670 in there there's a if you want to join 1494 00:55:48,229 --> 00:55:46,619 the company as an investor if you want 1495 00:55:50,420 --> 00:55:48,239 to join the company as an engineer or 1496 00:55:51,650 --> 00:55:50,430 you have a marketing yes i see something 1497 00:55:53,690 --> 00:55:51,660 you could add the company as a place to 1498 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:53,700 do that there's also a place just to get 1499 00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:56,130 hook up for the newsletter and you know 1500 00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:57,599 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his flying 1528 00:56:58,350 --> 00:56:55,170 car project and just the overall 1529 00:57:00,030 --> 00:56:58,360 approach to the future as a society as a 1530 00:57:01,050 --> 00:57:00,040 whole I mean that is it seems to be an 1531 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:01,060 overall running theme for this 1532 00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:02,530 particular episode if you would like to 1533 00:57:09,350 --> 00:57:05,200 contribute your thoughts or opinions 88 1534 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:09,360 89 1923 55 is the telephone number 88 89 1535 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:12,610 1923 55 for those of you who have tuned 1536 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:13,930 in late and are wondering where my 1537 00:57:18,270 --> 00:57:16,210 co-host mark Schwartz is this week he is 1538 00:57:20,550 --> 00:57:18,280 off getting married he gets married in 1539 00:57:23,250 --> 00:57:20,560 three days and he is so buried in 1540 00:57:25,170 --> 00:57:23,260 wedding prep that he could not make the 1541 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:25,180 show this particular edition 1542 00:57:31,410 --> 00:57:27,970 understandably so we're live here on the 1543 00:57:34,380 --> 00:57:31,420 inception radio network again 888 91 92 1544 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:34,390 355 when we get back Jesse I want to 1545 00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:36,250 move away from the flying car just a 1546 00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:39,430 little bit and discuss some more on your 1547 00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:42,910 upcoming new show paranormal justice is 1548 00:57:47,460 --> 00:57:45,910 that the name yes it is currently but 1549 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:47,470 you know it's like what you get in the 1550 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:49,090 media they change things now that name 1551 00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:51,490 might change as well but right now it's 1552 00:57:55,140 --> 00:57:53,680 a safe thing holding title is paranormal 1553 00:57:56,940 --> 00:57:55,150 justice what does that mean we will get 1554 00:57:58,770 --> 00:57:56,950 into that in just a few moments here 1555 00:58:00,300 --> 00:57:58,780 with Jesse Marcel jr. live on the 1556 00:58:02,070 --> 00:58:00,310 inception radio network again my name is 1557 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:02,080 art web we got about 30 minutes after 1558 00:58:05,790 --> 00:58:03,610 the break so hang around it's going to 1559 00:58:07,710 --> 00:58:05,800 be a fun and lively conversation as this 1560 00:58:09,540 --> 00:58:07,720 has been for the hour so far so thank 1561 00:58:11,250 --> 00:58:09,550 you so much for tuning in truth finders 1562 00:58:14,670 --> 00:58:11,260 radio live on irn will be this after 1563 00:58:18,450 --> 00:58:14,680 back ponders radio on the inception 1564 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:18,460 radio network truth thunders was started 1565 00:58:22,110 --> 00:58:19,930 as a place to shine a spotlight on 1566 00:58:24,510 --> 00:58:22,120 paranormal projects other big-name 1567 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:24,520 crowdfunding sites Barry paranormal 1568 00:58:29,070 --> 00:58:27,130 projects that contain 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01:03:01,870 the future and optimism and hope and 1665 01:03:06,510 --> 01:03:04,120 right things and just being positive 1666 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:06,520 essentially and really running with the 1667 01:03:10,890 --> 01:03:09,010 concept of positivity and and turning it 1668 01:03:13,710 --> 01:03:10,900 into something good and tangible and 1669 01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:13,720 productive 88 89 1923 55 is the 1670 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:14,710 telephone number if you would like to 1671 01:03:18,030 --> 01:03:16,090 join the conversation we've got a little 1672 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:18,040 bit under 30 minutes left on this week's 1673 01:03:25,530 --> 01:03:21,850 episode 8 8 8 9 192 355 you can also 1674 01:03:28,260 --> 01:03:25,540 email the show which is truth funders @ 1675 01:03:30,510 --> 01:03:28,270 gmail.com truth funders @ gmail.com or 1676 01:03:32,610 --> 01:03:30,520 you can check out truth funders on 1677 01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:32,620 Facebook Twitter Instagram all of those 1678 01:03:36,210 --> 01:03:34,720 social media feeds just simply search 1679 01:03:39,210 --> 01:03:36,220 truth funders and I'm sure it will pop 1680 01:03:42,930 --> 01:03:39,220 right on up there for you Jesse let's 1681 01:03:46,110 --> 01:03:42,940 talk about your upcoming new project 1682 01:03:48,750 --> 01:03:46,120 that is going to be a new type of show I 1683 01:03:50,190 --> 01:03:48,760 don't want to get too into details as it 1684 01:03:52,410 --> 01:03:50,200 seems maybe you're still working out 1685 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:52,420 logistics in a lot of the technicality 1686 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:54,250 ways and where people be able to access 1687 01:03:57,810 --> 01:03:56,290 it and the overall title and all that 1688 01:03:59,880 --> 01:03:57,820 but what's uh what's the concept and 1689 01:04:01,680 --> 01:03:59,890 what what is it tell you're looking to 1690 01:04:03,660 --> 01:04:01,690 accomplish with this new show and what 1691 01:04:05,700 --> 01:04:03,670 type of show is is gonna be web-based TV 1692 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:05,710 base what are you doing it'll be a 1693 01:04:12,270 --> 01:04:10,210 network where it there's there's a good 1694 01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:12,280 Cydia it'll be on television on that one 1695 01:04:20,010 --> 01:04:15,160 that works it's just it's basically a 1696 01:04:23,460 --> 01:04:20,020 new form of documentary where you 1697 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:23,470 basically are able to bring you know 1698 01:04:28,260 --> 01:04:25,930 like you have some people argue you know 1699 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:28,270 in and it's just not just by me it does 1700 01:04:34,380 --> 01:04:30,250 to a pair of science and then the rest 1701 01:04:36,870 --> 01:04:34,390 of none you know Indies to everything 1702 01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:36,880 exorcisms all these crowd I just you 1703 01:04:41,220 --> 01:04:39,280 name it it correct across the board but 1704 01:04:43,860 --> 01:04:41,230 what it doesn't it allows people to come 1705 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:43,870 into a room and argue their situation 1706 01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:45,970 out that maybe they believe that are 1707 01:04:51,700 --> 01:04:46,160 there 1708 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:51,710 all know that's not possible that's not 1709 01:04:55,089 --> 01:04:53,690 there and this just basically puts you 1710 01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:55,099 in front of the person that's arguing 1711 01:04:59,770 --> 01:04:58,250 with you in other words it kind of it 1712 01:05:02,260 --> 01:04:59,780 doesn't leave some you can't just make 1713 01:05:05,099 --> 01:05:02,270 you get in proposal enim conjecture not 1714 01:05:08,170 --> 01:05:05,109 a cyanide feet ization to be had or 1715 01:05:10,270 --> 01:05:08,180 speculation to be presented where a lot 1716 01:05:11,770 --> 01:05:10,280 of these shows don't allow for that type 1717 01:05:13,180 --> 01:05:11,780 of dialogue to go back and forth I think 1718 01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:13,190 it's a brilliant idea that really gives 1719 01:05:18,250 --> 01:05:15,680 the user or the the viewer of the 1720 01:05:20,529 --> 01:05:18,260 content the ability to truly decide for 1721 01:05:22,359 --> 01:05:20,539 their self after hearing both sides of 1722 01:05:24,490 --> 01:05:22,369 an argument when it comes to paranormal 1723 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:24,500 subject matter and a brilliant dude I 1724 01:05:27,970 --> 01:05:26,210 mean honestly it's a very brilliant idea 1725 01:05:31,420 --> 01:05:27,980 and I think that you'll do very well 1726 01:05:34,210 --> 01:05:31,430 with it it's exciting it's different so 1727 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:34,220 it's a it I think there's a lot of room 1728 01:05:37,569 --> 01:05:36,410 it was really born out of a lot of 1729 01:05:40,930 --> 01:05:37,579 things that have happened in the past 1730 01:05:42,430 --> 01:05:40,940 where you know it's it everybody else 1731 01:05:44,140 --> 01:05:42,440 have to say about something but if 1732 01:05:46,029 --> 01:05:44,150 you're if the person hiding behind a 1733 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:46,039 wall somewhere you know it kind of 1734 01:05:48,730 --> 01:05:47,450 removes that wall means okay if you got 1735 01:05:50,230 --> 01:05:48,740 to say something you're going to have to 1736 01:05:52,150 --> 01:05:50,240 have a real place other than just 1737 01:05:53,710 --> 01:05:52,160 because i was gonna say where a keyboard 1738 01:05:55,539 --> 01:05:53,720 and a screen for that matter too because 1739 01:05:58,630 --> 01:05:55,549 there's so much conjecture happening 1740 01:06:01,240 --> 01:05:58,640 online and a lot of [\h__\h] flinging going 1741 01:06:03,579 --> 01:06:01,250 on from people back and forth like my 1742 01:06:05,500 --> 01:06:03,589 father some people were attacking him 1743 01:06:06,940 --> 01:06:05,510 but it was crazy when it came right down 1744 01:06:09,940 --> 01:06:06,950 to him the biggest thing they attacked 1745 01:06:12,130 --> 01:06:09,950 my dad on why was growing up was because 1746 01:06:15,010 --> 01:06:12,140 he was a motorcycle rider and a mountain 1747 01:06:16,359 --> 01:06:15,020 climber and they said well yeah you who 1748 01:06:18,970 --> 01:06:16,369 can trust one of those people it's like 1749 01:06:20,049 --> 01:06:18,980 so it is kind of kid is it is it gets to 1750 01:06:22,779 --> 01:06:20,059 the point of being absolutely ridiculous 1751 01:06:24,940 --> 01:06:22,789 trust mountain climbers these guys know 1752 01:06:26,890 --> 01:06:24,950 the lydian in any way shape or form 1753 01:06:30,250 --> 01:06:26,900 Victor every were these mountain 1754 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:30,260 climbers same exact every summer had 1755 01:06:33,609 --> 01:06:32,210 free climb down the Tetons I mean it was 1756 01:06:34,900 --> 01:06:33,619 his love he dried his motorcycle down 1757 01:06:36,730 --> 01:06:34,910 there in climb but now that would he 1758 01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:36,740 just love that with a passion you know 1759 01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:38,569 really extreme sports poros called 1760 01:06:42,220 --> 01:06:40,400 extreme sports but yeah and they're 1761 01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:42,230 always had integrated for well you know 1762 01:06:44,829 --> 01:06:43,609 if you're if you're gonna do that then 1763 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:44,839 you're crazy you know the other there 1764 01:06:47,799 --> 01:06:45,770 must be something wrong with you but 1765 01:06:49,089 --> 01:06:47,809 it's just a whole idea that's kind of as 1766 01:06:50,710 --> 01:06:49,099 far as like well you know ok Bo say 1767 01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:50,720 those things will come out and hit away 1768 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:52,880 say it to my face even aliens I also 1769 01:06:56,829 --> 01:06:54,650 drink orange juice in the morning you 1770 01:06:58,150 --> 01:06:56,839 drink exact oh you must be crazy you 1771 01:07:00,220 --> 01:06:58,160 must have in mind you drinking 1772 01:07:01,540 --> 01:07:00,230 better not a pulp in that orange juice 1773 01:07:03,580 --> 01:07:01,550 because then your we're gonna commit you 1774 01:07:05,410 --> 01:07:03,590 I mean what is this make any sense and 1775 01:07:07,270 --> 01:07:05,420 it is kind of a brilliant move so this 1776 01:07:09,970 --> 01:07:07,280 is a project that you've shopped in his 1777 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:09,980 indeed been picked up for a pilot or 1778 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:11,810 series order what's what's the current 1779 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:13,730 status yeah it's it's already gone 1780 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:15,410 through preliminary production that kind 1781 01:07:20,620 --> 01:07:18,530 of development and we there's there's 1782 01:07:22,750 --> 01:07:20,630 two homes for right now is because kinda 1783 01:07:25,060 --> 01:07:22,760 be kind of deciding which was going to 1784 01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:25,070 go what we're gonna go with but it will 1785 01:07:28,690 --> 01:07:27,110 be widely widely available in made on 1786 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:28,700 you know on a national level people be 1787 01:07:32,620 --> 01:07:30,770 able to access and find the weather 1788 01:07:35,170 --> 01:07:32,630 there watching on television or online 1789 01:07:36,250 --> 01:07:35,180 in indium naturally there actually yep 1790 01:07:39,850 --> 01:07:36,260 they want you won't have any problem 1791 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:39,860 getting to it and what kinds of cases 1792 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:42,650 for lack of a better term or projects 1793 01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:44,810 are you going to BRE bringing to the 1794 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:46,640 initial few runs or do you have any 1795 01:07:50,650 --> 01:07:47,930 examples that you can provide of 1796 01:07:53,710 --> 01:07:50,660 discussions that will be going on in the 1797 01:07:55,570 --> 01:07:53,720 early run of the episodes well I mean in 1798 01:07:56,650 --> 01:07:55,580 a way it's like you can kind of you can 1799 01:07:58,060 --> 01:07:56,660 kind of look at it like you know of 1800 01:07:59,620 --> 01:07:58,070 course my backgrounds in Roswell so 1801 01:08:01,810 --> 01:07:59,630 guess what one of those shows going to 1802 01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:01,820 be about but you know just you know part 1803 01:08:07,060 --> 01:08:04,000 of the UFO world and everything 1804 01:08:08,170 --> 01:08:07,070 spiritual world the the physical and all 1805 01:08:09,610 --> 01:08:08,180 that stuff that's and that's what I want 1806 01:08:12,550 --> 01:08:09,620 to get eyes it's not going to be a hyper 1807 01:08:14,830 --> 01:08:12,560 focused on extraterrestrials or no no no 1808 01:08:16,990 --> 01:08:14,840 this is going to be ghosts it's going to 1809 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:17,000 be a metaphysical consciousness it's 1810 01:08:21,460 --> 01:08:19,250 going to be any number of things that 1811 01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:21,470 people have not been able to prove 1812 01:08:25,750 --> 01:08:22,880 through science yet that are 1813 01:08:28,620 --> 01:08:25,760 hypotheticals well I wanted to see what 1814 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:28,630 is like there was a test done a 1815 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:30,770 university in England that over PI over 1816 01:08:35,170 --> 01:08:33,170 a period over a decade and this guy 1817 01:08:37,690 --> 01:08:35,180 created a very simple computer and all 1818 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:37,700 it did was spit out a yes or a No that's 1819 01:08:44,650 --> 01:08:41,090 all and he had students go to it and try 1820 01:08:47,980 --> 01:08:44,660 to try to in a way predict the outcome 1821 01:08:50,440 --> 01:08:47,990 of that experiment over 10 years and in 1822 01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:50,450 a way okay they they want I want to see 1823 01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:51,710 this computer come up with a yes for his 1824 01:08:54,850 --> 01:08:53,510 next answer and somebody else might walk 1825 01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:54,860 and I want to see come up with a no for 1826 01:08:58,930 --> 01:08:56,000 his next answer that it would come up 1827 01:09:00,850 --> 01:08:58,940 and what's interesting is that's the 1828 01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:00,860 whole idea of when we get up into a 1829 01:09:05,490 --> 01:09:03,290 quantum reality is that we can alter the 1830 01:09:07,410 --> 01:09:05,500 outcome of simple experiments and 1831 01:09:08,999 --> 01:09:07,420 okay and yeah the power of intention and 1832 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:09,009 manifestation its Harv intention and 1833 01:09:13,260 --> 01:09:11,410 what's interesting is he was he was able 1834 01:09:16,230 --> 01:09:13,270 to do that in excess of seventy percent 1835 01:09:18,450 --> 01:09:16,240 of the time and statistically or hassey 1836 01:09:20,490 --> 01:09:18,460 rate that's nice possibility no that's 1837 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:20,500 insane so that's that's another type of 1838 01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:22,210 thing that you'll be bringing to that 1839 01:09:26,430 --> 01:09:24,640 those sort of things as is it okay he 1840 01:09:28,230 --> 01:09:26,440 can do that he has a bunch of raw data 1841 01:09:29,970 --> 01:09:28,240 and you have somebody else is going to 1842 01:09:31,769 --> 01:09:29,980 say oh that's just a bunch of garbage no 1843 01:09:33,809 --> 01:09:31,779 way yeah there's no truth that it's well 1844 01:09:35,010 --> 01:09:33,819 good you bring up wise garbage he's 1845 01:09:37,140 --> 01:09:35,020 going to bring in why he believes that 1846 01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:37,150 his outcomes of his experiment actually 1847 01:09:40,860 --> 01:09:39,759 are significant and so that's kind of 1848 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:40,870 that's how kind of how it comes together 1849 01:09:46,140 --> 01:09:43,330 so so we'll judge will judge Jesse 1850 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:46,150 Marcel jr. be proceeding over the over 1851 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:48,850 the court some spirit I'm not going to 1852 01:09:52,590 --> 01:09:49,810 know what's going to happen actually 1853 01:09:54,269 --> 01:09:52,600 you'll find out what you see it if you 1854 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:54,279 need if you need a judge I'm happy to 1855 01:10:00,150 --> 01:09:56,650 take my gavel and slam it down any time 1856 01:10:02,250 --> 01:10:00,160 there we go there we go well that sounds 1857 01:10:04,140 --> 01:10:02,260 really fascinating and when can you 1858 01:10:05,850 --> 01:10:04,150 expect this to go into production and 1859 01:10:07,170 --> 01:10:05,860 eventually hitting the air because this 1860 01:10:09,150 --> 01:10:07,180 is something that I think would be fun 1861 01:10:12,750 --> 01:10:09,160 to keep up on here at Ruth funders as 1862 01:10:14,430 --> 01:10:12,760 well you know I can tell you is from an 1863 01:10:16,230 --> 01:10:14,440 amateur standpoint because i really 1864 01:10:18,540 --> 01:10:16,240 don't know all the ins and Dives about 1865 01:10:20,780 --> 01:10:18,550 all works I mean I'm hoping this fall 1866 01:10:22,830 --> 01:10:20,790 sometime we have together okay put this 1867 01:10:24,450 --> 01:10:22,840 is something this year I mean all your 1868 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:24,460 target dates are this year so those are 1869 01:10:29,310 --> 01:10:27,370 you know Dan well I think things are 1870 01:10:33,810 --> 01:10:29,320 going good we got work also I mean that 1871 01:10:36,510 --> 01:10:33,820 the the big 70th reunion for Roswell's 1872 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:36,520 coming up 2017 and we're going to do our 1873 01:10:41,130 --> 01:10:38,170 best to at least do a big announcement 1874 01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:41,140 for a movie coming out in that area 1875 01:10:44,340 --> 01:10:42,640 above it that when it moves I've been 1876 01:10:45,930 --> 01:10:44,350 working on quite a few years so we have 1877 01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:45,940 a lot of lot of things on the next few 1878 01:10:49,020 --> 01:10:47,440 years coming out yeah I was gonna say 1879 01:10:51,420 --> 01:10:49,030 between that you're flying car and the 1880 01:10:53,250 --> 01:10:51,430 i-beam project what else do you not have 1881 01:10:55,050 --> 01:10:53,260 time for because it seems your days are 1882 01:10:57,210 --> 01:10:55,060 pretty filled at this point with 1883 01:11:00,540 --> 01:10:57,220 projects that you got spinning around 1884 01:11:02,250 --> 01:11:00,550 well you know I said my in my car 1885 01:11:04,230 --> 01:11:02,260 actually comes first of everything I 1886 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:04,240 mean that's always spend a bulk by hours 1887 01:11:08,940 --> 01:11:06,010 between morning night midnight three in 1888 01:11:11,490 --> 01:11:08,950 the morning whatever it is and then I do 1889 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:11,500 you know some of this you know like the 1890 01:11:16,980 --> 01:11:13,810 IBM stuff is exciting to me because it 1891 01:11:19,260 --> 01:11:16,990 carries forward you know really part of 1892 01:11:22,110 --> 01:11:19,270 what our family has been experienced to 1893 01:11:24,750 --> 01:11:22,120 as I haven't had the front seats to it 1894 01:11:27,630 --> 01:11:24,760 it's [\h__\h] in tysons one way they stay 1895 01:11:29,550 --> 01:11:27,640 in touch with it I uh I I actually 1896 01:11:31,890 --> 01:11:29,560 haven't scheduled any more book tours 1897 01:11:33,810 --> 01:11:31,900 those kind of things for this year or 1898 01:11:36,150 --> 01:11:33,820 next year just because I've got so 1899 01:11:38,910 --> 01:11:36,160 involved what I'm doing that could do a 1900 01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:38,920 good job at it well Tory is exhausting 1901 01:11:41,670 --> 01:11:40,480 to I mean let's face it getting out and 1902 01:11:42,930 --> 01:11:41,680 whether you're doing the convention 1903 01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:42,940 circuit or you're doing a book tour 1904 01:11:46,890 --> 01:11:44,320 circuit or you're just getting out and 1905 01:11:48,630 --> 01:11:46,900 doing public speaking engagements is 1906 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:48,640 somebody who has done touring and 1907 01:11:53,460 --> 01:11:50,770 continues to do touring types of 1908 01:11:55,890 --> 01:11:53,470 engagements in my personal life it's 1909 01:11:58,410 --> 01:11:55,900 exhausting I mean it is physically and 1910 01:12:00,660 --> 01:11:58,420 mentally just depleting in every way so 1911 01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:00,670 it's probably kind of nice for you to be 1912 01:12:05,130 --> 01:12:02,110 able to sit down and kind of ground 1913 01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:05,140 yourself and route and and really focus 1914 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:06,310 the energies that would otherwise be 1915 01:12:12,750 --> 01:12:09,370 taken up by those types of traveling yes 1916 01:12:14,820 --> 01:12:12,760 and that's true is it it is as I do I 1917 01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:14,830 mean it allows me to concentrate more 1918 01:12:18,990 --> 01:12:17,710 and I you know and it is I Exodus it's 1919 01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:19,000 definitely a love that i'm following 1920 01:12:24,060 --> 01:12:22,030 nothing i don't really embraced that you 1921 01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:24,070 know that some of the paranormal ideas 1922 01:12:27,420 --> 01:12:25,120 of what's going on out there and it's 1923 01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:27,430 not even i don't even like the word 1924 01:12:30,750 --> 01:12:29,440 paranormal because people looking at all 1925 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:30,760 difference or what does paranormal mean 1926 01:12:35,130 --> 01:12:32,650 anything outside of what we consider as 1927 01:12:36,810 --> 01:12:35,140 normal well anymore the idea of there's 1928 01:12:38,820 --> 01:12:36,820 life in the universe is not paranormal 1929 01:12:40,860 --> 01:12:38,830 it's normal it's getting closer and 1930 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:40,870 closer to a societal point that's an 1931 01:12:44,010 --> 01:12:42,730 excellent point I always think some 1932 01:12:45,540 --> 01:12:44,020 people that are kind of out there that 1933 01:12:47,610 --> 01:12:45,550 are there pitching their book or doing 1934 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:47,620 whatever are really they say I can't 1935 01:12:52,050 --> 01:12:48,730 believe there's so few people interested 1936 01:12:54,300 --> 01:12:52,060 anymore the thing is that it's not 1937 01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:54,310 there's no shock value to it anymore is 1938 01:12:58,890 --> 01:12:57,730 that really i mean i rarely III can't 1939 01:13:00,300 --> 01:12:58,900 think of you know when I'll haven't ran 1940 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:00,310 into the last person actually didn't 1941 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:01,930 believe that there isn't life in the 1942 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:03,370 universe and that perhaps we've been 1943 01:13:06,990 --> 01:13:05,290 visited this not the other it's just it 1944 01:13:09,570 --> 01:13:07,000 just don't have that shock license is 1945 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:09,580 soaked accepted by a remand at this 1946 01:13:13,650 --> 01:13:11,770 point that we're not alone yet it's not 1947 01:13:15,870 --> 01:13:13,660 it's like you know it's like it's as 1948 01:13:18,090 --> 01:13:15,880 more of a casual conversation I can't 1949 01:13:19,740 --> 01:13:18,100 imagine the last person that I you're 1950 01:13:22,230 --> 01:13:19,750 right that's such a good point that I 1951 01:13:24,270 --> 01:13:22,240 have not considered that I could not 1952 01:13:26,220 --> 01:13:24,280 come up with the last person to I spoke 1953 01:13:28,110 --> 01:13:26,230 to that truly did not believe in life 1954 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:28,120 existing somewhere else in the universe 1955 01:13:32,370 --> 01:13:30,130 it is normal at this point and you're 1956 01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:32,380 right the word turn paranormal has been 1957 01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:33,280 gentrified 1958 01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:34,960 such an extent that it is white washed 1959 01:13:41,130 --> 01:13:36,490 in a lot of ways now and it doesn't 1960 01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:41,140 carry that same mysterious or mystical 1961 01:13:45,690 --> 01:13:43,870 type of energy that it oh that it always 1962 01:13:48,060 --> 01:13:45,700 has the unexplained the things that 1963 01:13:51,210 --> 01:13:48,070 might be there that we can't necessarily 1964 01:13:53,190 --> 01:13:51,220 use any of our six senses to pin down 1965 01:13:54,780 --> 01:13:53,200 but we just feel them and we know that 1966 01:13:56,010 --> 01:13:54,790 we're there and we are coming to a head 1967 01:13:58,740 --> 01:13:56,020 with that kind of stuff that you're 1968 01:14:00,660 --> 01:13:58,750 right there does need to be a new term 1969 01:14:03,540 --> 01:14:00,670 coined maybe not a new term but we need 1970 01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:03,550 to figure out a way to redirect a word 1971 01:14:09,380 --> 01:14:06,490 that in two ways that cover these things 1972 01:14:11,130 --> 01:14:09,390 maybe I'm not such an overarching 1973 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:11,140 position either because you're right 1974 01:14:15,530 --> 01:14:13,570 from from alternative theories in terms 1975 01:14:17,790 --> 01:14:15,540 of science you know metaphysics 1976 01:14:21,050 --> 01:14:17,800 spiritual ghosts the whole thing's it's 1977 01:14:23,330 --> 01:14:21,060 you're right it is becoming much more 1978 01:14:26,910 --> 01:14:23,340 what's the word I'm looking forward 1979 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:26,920 stagnated and broken down it's just 1980 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:29,050 becoming a societal arm it's like these 1981 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:30,850 are phenomenons that exist in our 1982 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:33,010 society I was funny i was reading a 1983 01:14:36,300 --> 01:14:35,050 little article their day is about some 1984 01:14:39,570 --> 01:14:36,310 people are up in arms because there's 1985 01:14:41,700 --> 01:14:39,580 some new something about ice on a Ouija 1986 01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:41,710 board people are calling out this demon 1987 01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:43,450 and it's a it's kind of like a whole who 1988 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:45,910 Plaza thing and they're saying that 1989 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:47,050 people are going to get in tranced is 1990 01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:48,370 going to be bad for everybody and they 1991 01:14:51,810 --> 01:14:50,080 know it's fake but there it's all kind 1992 01:14:53,370 --> 01:14:51,820 of this big movement to go out for 1993 01:14:55,410 --> 01:14:53,380 people on the internet to go out and try 1994 01:14:56,490 --> 01:14:55,420 to do this and call us evil demon into 1995 01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:56,500 the into your room or something like 1996 01:15:00,540 --> 01:14:58,960 that and what I always think it's fun 1997 01:15:03,090 --> 01:15:00,550 excessive by a major it was an AP Duke 1998 01:15:05,550 --> 01:15:03,100 story it was interesting so this isn't a 1999 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:05,560 real demon though and you got to look at 2000 01:15:09,420 --> 01:15:07,570 that thinking if this is a real demon 2001 01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:09,430 then then you got to believe there are 2002 01:15:13,500 --> 01:15:11,440 such a thing as a real phenomenon 2003 01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:13,510 there's something real out there that's 2004 01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:15,490 beyond our essence you can't say 2005 01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:17,860 something's fake it was you this is one 2006 01:15:20,370 --> 01:15:18,880 of the thick ones it's not one of the 2007 01:15:21,780 --> 01:15:20,380 real ones well you're kind of 2008 01:15:22,830 --> 01:15:21,790 legitimizing there really something real 2009 01:15:25,110 --> 01:15:22,840 out there that if you're saying one's 2010 01:15:26,910 --> 01:15:25,120 fake you know what I mean yeah it's the 2011 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:26,920 yin yang you know enemy exactly it's 2012 01:15:30,780 --> 01:15:29,530 like it's like you in it so it is and 2013 01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:30,790 it's interesting I mean even through 2014 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:32,560 religion or some people believe in the 2015 01:15:37,380 --> 01:15:35,530 the idea of like you said they're called 2016 01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:37,390 ghosts whatever you want to do essences 2017 01:15:42,330 --> 01:15:39,310 around us you know they're there is 2018 01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:42,340 something to it I mean I I it I I went 2019 01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:44,110 through a car accident spent 20 2020 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:46,770 something years ago and I actually I 2021 01:15:50,210 --> 01:15:48,930 is clinical I was clinically gone by the 2022 01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:50,220 time I got the emergency room and then I 2023 01:15:54,620 --> 01:15:52,890 died again in my sleep but and I went 2024 01:15:56,030 --> 01:15:54,630 through not a bright light situation but 2025 01:15:58,790 --> 01:15:56,040 I went through a situation where I was 2026 01:16:00,890 --> 01:15:58,800 very very comfortable with the situation 2027 01:16:02,090 --> 01:16:00,900 around me that all the feelings the 2028 01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:02,100 emotions in there and it was actually at 2029 01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:07,110 the NICU and I was after I so to speak 2030 01:16:11,900 --> 01:16:10,050 came back after getting an adrenaline 2031 01:16:14,330 --> 01:16:11,910 shot I was able to repeat every 2032 01:16:16,250 --> 01:16:14,340 conversations in the room in the ICU and 2033 01:16:18,590 --> 01:16:16,260 I had there was no synapses going out of 2034 01:16:21,020 --> 01:16:18,600 my brain at a time and it's interesting 2035 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:21,030 is like it's like that sort of thing 2036 01:16:24,230 --> 01:16:22,530 it's like to me it's like well yeah I 2037 01:16:25,610 --> 01:16:24,240 mean there's something else out there 2038 01:16:27,890 --> 01:16:25,620 there's something way beyond our 2039 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:27,900 conceptual art our physical self you 2040 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:29,850 know as far as and that you know if that 2041 01:16:35,510 --> 01:16:31,530 manifests itself in the idea of a ghost 2042 01:16:37,670 --> 01:16:35,520 or some kind of a dent in the in what we 2043 01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:37,680 perceive as reality around us and that 2044 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:39,450 you know whatever it might be it's it's 2045 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:41,850 interesting and it is what you know what 2046 01:16:45,140 --> 01:16:43,290 we were talking about a moment ago with 2047 01:16:46,610 --> 01:16:45,150 the power of intention and manifestation 2048 01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:46,620 I mean there could be any number of 2049 01:16:50,990 --> 01:16:49,110 things that are in reality and in all 2050 01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:51,000 actuality the same thing we are just 2051 01:16:54,590 --> 01:16:52,560 projecting them differently and then 2052 01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:54,600 perceiving them differently as well I'm 2053 01:16:58,700 --> 01:16:56,880 a firm believer that all roads lead to 2054 01:16:59,840 --> 01:16:58,710 the same place at the end of the day you 2055 01:17:01,610 --> 01:16:59,850 know what I mean I mean no matter what 2056 01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:01,620 path you choose we're all going to the 2057 01:17:06,140 --> 01:17:03,930 same place and I think that speaks all 2058 01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:06,150 equally as well to these types of things 2059 01:17:10,820 --> 01:17:08,550 that we just project them and then 2060 01:17:13,580 --> 01:17:10,830 perceive the surroundings around us in 2061 01:17:16,910 --> 01:17:13,590 such a way that we pinpoint it as UFO or 2062 01:17:19,490 --> 01:17:16,920 ghosts or Raymond or whatever I mean 2063 01:17:21,830 --> 01:17:19,500 it's all about our own personal biases 2064 01:17:23,330 --> 01:17:21,840 and the way that we were raised in it so 2065 01:17:25,190 --> 01:17:23,340 many things go in and out of this but it 2066 01:17:27,980 --> 01:17:25,200 ultimately i do believe it to be at the 2067 01:17:30,620 --> 01:17:27,990 end of day one common denominator I I 2068 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:30,630 agree to either there is something there 2069 01:17:37,070 --> 01:17:34,770 is some similarity all this stuff I you 2070 01:17:39,710 --> 01:17:37,080 know I the idea of essence of you know 2071 01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:39,720 whatever of life of being unconscious is 2072 01:17:43,070 --> 01:17:41,370 that kind of thing it is all the same 2073 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:43,080 thing through depth through many 2074 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:44,730 different things like I read an 2075 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:47,370 interesting article and they want situs 2076 01:17:51,470 --> 01:17:49,410 was there they're talking about what how 2077 01:17:53,930 --> 01:17:51,480 do we recognize life from absence of 2078 01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:53,940 life and it really boils down to a 2079 01:18:00,170 --> 01:17:57,570 physical property of how matter exhales 2080 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:00,180 energy and it's just look 2081 01:18:04,190 --> 01:18:01,530 something as simple as that you know 2082 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:04,200 obviously a rock it still does exhale 2083 01:18:08,210 --> 01:18:06,090 energy you can hate it in a sudden it'll 2084 01:18:10,250 --> 01:18:08,220 cool off energy will leave that rock as 2085 01:18:12,110 --> 01:18:10,260 it cools off and it dissipates of the 2086 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:12,120 air around it but you know you just take 2087 01:18:15,890 --> 01:18:13,650 that to the nth degree past that idea 2088 01:18:18,140 --> 01:18:15,900 and you have us but you have that 2089 01:18:19,970 --> 01:18:18,150 everything you know that there is you 2090 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:19,980 know if you boil life down the way 2091 01:18:23,570 --> 01:18:22,050 energy is transferred from one thing to 2092 01:18:25,790 --> 01:18:23,580 another way it's they use the word 2093 01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:25,800 exhale it's kind of interesting and it 2094 01:18:30,140 --> 01:18:28,080 it creates a crazy universe is 2095 01:18:32,540 --> 01:18:30,150 absolutely limitless you know it isn't a 2096 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:32,550 deal absolutely lynus and and further to 2097 01:18:37,490 --> 01:18:34,650 that point you know it's my personal 2098 01:18:39,740 --> 01:18:37,500 belief that essentially everything that 2099 01:18:44,210 --> 01:18:39,750 is existence is the way that we know it 2100 01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:44,220 from overall everything I mean [\h__\h] from 2101 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:45,600 the way I'm sitting in this chair right 2102 01:18:50,990 --> 01:18:48,090 now to the way somebody in China is 2103 01:18:52,940 --> 01:18:51,000 eating food it's all sound we're all 2104 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:52,950 sound everything is just sound that's 2105 01:18:57,430 --> 01:18:55,530 what we are we are vibrating frequencies 2106 01:18:59,840 --> 01:18:57,440 and we are vibrating at such an extreme 2107 01:19:02,120 --> 01:18:59,850 frequency that it becomes a solid you 2108 01:19:05,150 --> 01:19:02,130 know I can hit the desk here and exactly 2109 01:19:07,210 --> 01:19:05,160 that is sound and we that's why I think 2110 01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:07,220 I love radio so much in the concept of 2111 01:19:13,070 --> 01:19:09,600 music and why I think music really is 2112 01:19:14,300 --> 01:19:13,080 the true power and in bringing people 2113 01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:14,310 together out of love and peace and 2114 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:15,690 harmony because at the end of the day 2115 01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:17,370 that's what we are we are music we are 2116 01:19:21,740 --> 01:19:19,890 living breathing living music and that 2117 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:21,750 that's that a much bigger conversation 2118 01:19:27,230 --> 01:19:24,930 for a much that's actually a very good 2119 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:27,240 way to put it I mean that's all we are 2120 01:19:31,070 --> 01:19:28,890 at the end of the day all we are is 2121 01:19:33,350 --> 01:19:31,080 energy which is vibrations that's all we 2122 01:19:36,890 --> 01:19:33,360 are everything from solid to liquid to 2123 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:36,900 gas to the absence of its all we are all 2124 01:19:42,020 --> 01:19:39,090 the exactly the same thing and that is 2125 01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:42,030 sound and and that is what the Big Bang 2126 01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:43,920 comes down to as well it's just a big 2127 01:19:49,610 --> 01:19:46,170 sound what happened and as a result so 2128 01:19:51,050 --> 01:19:49,620 much so that it became existence in the 2129 01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:51,060 way that we currently perceive it and 2130 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:53,040 know it these are big questions that we 2131 01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:54,690 are discussing my friend and i'm truly 2132 01:19:58,190 --> 01:19:56,250 enjoying this conversation with you 2133 01:20:00,200 --> 01:19:58,200 unfortunately we've got about five 2134 01:20:01,610 --> 01:20:00,210 minutes left on this week's episode so I 2135 01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:01,620 do want to get a couple calls in if 2136 01:20:04,460 --> 01:20:02,850 anybody wants to contribute to this 2137 01:20:06,740 --> 01:20:04,470 conversation with Jesse Marcel jr. 2138 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:06,750 you're live on truth funders radio 8 a-8 2139 01:20:13,739 --> 01:20:10,730 9 192 355 is the telephone number 88 89 2140 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:13,749 192 355 2141 01:20:17,579 --> 01:20:15,489 again I encourage you to go to truth 2142 01:20:19,619 --> 01:20:17,589 funders calm and check out Jesse's 2143 01:20:22,619 --> 01:20:19,629 Roswell eyebeam project it's currently 2144 01:20:24,209 --> 01:20:22,629 in the middle of generating donations 2145 01:20:26,399 --> 01:20:24,219 and there are so many different levels 2146 01:20:28,349 --> 01:20:26,409 of rewards if you want to donate five 2147 01:20:31,319 --> 01:20:28,359 bucks ten bucks fifteen bucks 25 bucks 2148 01:20:33,719 --> 01:20:31,329 anywhere up to 2,500 dollars all sorts 2149 01:20:35,879 --> 01:20:33,729 of amazing rewards for you available and 2150 01:20:37,379 --> 01:20:35,889 so much information I mean like Jesse 2151 01:20:38,399 --> 01:20:37,389 said earlier in the program this picture 2152 01:20:39,809 --> 01:20:38,409 of his grandfather is that your 2153 01:20:41,669 --> 01:20:39,819 grandfather your father with the foil 2154 01:20:42,569 --> 01:20:41,679 that's my grandfather let's picture your 2155 01:20:46,049 --> 01:20:42,579 grandfather in the phone is good-looking 2156 01:20:47,279 --> 01:20:46,059 guy man yeah there's about I can just 2157 01:20:50,129 --> 01:20:47,289 real quickly about that picture we 2158 01:20:52,199 --> 01:20:50,139 that's a pretty famous picture and we 2159 01:20:53,429 --> 01:20:52,209 just I had a colorized and has the 2160 01:20:55,619 --> 01:20:53,439 latest software is that kind of thing 2161 01:20:59,039 --> 01:20:55,629 but might what my grandfather we said is 2162 01:21:00,989 --> 01:20:59,049 inside those pictures inside that room 2163 01:21:02,489 --> 01:21:00,999 it was mostly just fake it was a robin 2164 01:21:04,469 --> 01:21:02,499 target you know whether blowing in front 2165 01:21:07,319 --> 01:21:04,479 of stuff but he said there was a part of 2166 01:21:08,879 --> 01:21:07,329 the original spacecraft in there and 2167 01:21:09,929 --> 01:21:08,889 that's reason i did so apparently some 2168 01:21:12,149 --> 01:21:09,939 of the debris in there actually could be 2169 01:21:13,619 --> 01:21:12,159 real so it's just fun to think about it 2170 01:21:16,649 --> 01:21:13,629 is fun to think about and the picture 2171 01:21:19,619 --> 01:21:16,659 itself is a piece of roswell history and 2172 01:21:21,649 --> 01:21:19,629 i can't wait to see where this role 2173 01:21:24,659 --> 01:21:21,659 roswell thing goes and like you said 2174 01:21:27,179 --> 01:21:24,669 2017 is going to be the big what it what 2175 01:21:30,019 --> 01:21:27,189 anniversary is it the 70th anniversary 2176 01:21:33,299 --> 01:21:30,029 Roswell who would have thought back in 2177 01:21:36,209 --> 01:21:33,309 1957 67 77 that we'd still be 70 years 2178 01:21:38,369 --> 01:21:36,219 into this and the mystery uh not only as 2179 01:21:40,589 --> 01:21:38,379 big as it ever was but bigger than 2180 01:21:43,019 --> 01:21:40,599 really it's ever been and so much more 2181 01:21:45,029 --> 01:21:43,029 questions surrounding the entire event 2182 01:21:47,219 --> 01:21:45,039 than answers having been provided I mean 2183 01:21:49,529 --> 01:21:47,229 that is kind of a wild notion that we 2184 01:21:51,959 --> 01:21:49,539 are that far and deep into something at 2185 01:21:55,169 --> 01:21:51,969 this point and overall I think area 51 2186 01:21:57,119 --> 01:21:55,179 is universally um believed in and you 2187 01:21:59,039 --> 01:21:57,129 know acknowledged by anybody you go up 2188 01:22:00,659 --> 01:21:59,049 to and ask I mean they don't necessarily 2189 01:22:01,769 --> 01:22:00,669 know that aliens crashed there but they 2190 01:22:03,809 --> 01:22:01,779 do know that there's some freaky [\h__\h] 2191 01:22:07,019 --> 01:22:03,819 going down and that's enough in and of 2192 01:22:07,949 --> 01:22:07,029 itself to you know make the conversation 2193 01:22:09,119 --> 01:22:07,959 with their out there actually two 2194 01:22:11,039 --> 01:22:09,129 different places area if you do one of 2195 01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:11,049 them out of Roswell but yeah there there 2196 01:22:15,869 --> 01:22:14,169 there's you know it is can the base it's 2197 01:22:18,089 --> 01:22:15,879 it's one of those points in time that 2198 01:22:20,129 --> 01:22:18,099 really changed things I mean you can 2199 01:22:21,659 --> 01:22:20,139 really point back to where people you 2200 01:22:22,829 --> 01:22:21,669 know started believing there so you are 2201 01:22:24,899 --> 01:22:22,839 willing to think that there's something 2202 01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:24,909 else beyond us I mean now that other 2203 01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:26,800 other civilizations have it forever 2204 01:22:30,060 --> 01:22:28,690 but it was really kind of an awakening 2205 01:22:32,210 --> 01:22:30,070 and it's kind of it's against the 2206 01:22:34,050 --> 01:22:32,220 bedrock for a lot of the UFOs you know 2207 01:22:35,580 --> 01:22:34,060 deciding isn't that kind of thing it's 2208 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:35,590 just it's the foundation for all of it 2209 01:22:40,710 --> 01:22:38,290 so it was exciting place to be and I was 2210 01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:40,720 just lucky enough to be born of the 2211 01:22:44,970 --> 01:22:41,920 family it has something to do with it 2212 01:22:46,410 --> 01:22:44,980 and it is your blessing and I once again 2213 01:22:48,420 --> 01:22:46,420 encourage everybody to go to truth 2214 01:22:50,910 --> 01:22:48,430 funders calm find the Roswell I bean 2215 01:22:52,890 --> 01:22:50,920 project and contribute however much you 2216 01:22:55,140 --> 01:22:52,900 can if you can't share the project on 2217 01:22:58,500 --> 01:22:55,150 facebook share it on Twitter let's get 2218 01:23:00,210 --> 01:22:58,510 some nut you know viral happenings going 2219 01:23:01,590 --> 01:23:00,220 for Jesse's project and truth funders as 2220 01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:01,600 a whole we do appreciate you sharing 2221 01:23:05,490 --> 01:23:03,910 truth funders to anyone and everyone you 2222 01:23:07,230 --> 01:23:05,500 think that would give a damn and what to 2223 01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:07,240 be involved with a crowdsourcing 2224 01:23:11,940 --> 01:23:09,520 community that is in to funding things 2225 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:11,950 that aren't necessarily mainstream 2226 01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:14,650 topics and really bringing the truth out 2227 01:23:19,380 --> 01:23:17,050 Jesse Marcel jr. thank you so much again 2228 01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:19,390 for joining me again I encourage people 2229 01:23:22,860 --> 01:23:21,040 to check out your project you can also 2230 01:23:26,130 --> 01:23:22,870 go to what's that website again for the 2231 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:26,140 flying car airborne motors com airborne 2232 01:23:31,460 --> 01:23:29,290 motors com airborne motors com and also 2233 01:23:33,450 --> 01:23:31,470 we can look out for your brand new on 2234 01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:33,460 television show coming sometime this 2235 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:35,410 year to a major national network about 2236 01:23:42,330 --> 01:23:39,330 paranormal and the discussion between 2237 01:23:44,430 --> 01:23:42,340 two parties and really the the s and the 2238 01:23:46,110 --> 01:23:44,440 know the right of the wrong way it's uh 2239 01:23:47,580 --> 01:23:46,120 the people's court for paranormal 2240 01:23:51,180 --> 01:23:47,590 essentially I mean is that a good way to 2241 01:23:54,900 --> 01:23:51,190 describe it together we gotta be yeah 2242 01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:54,910 okay are you listening to truth funders 2243 01:23:59,130 --> 01:23:57,370 radio my name is art web Jesse once 2244 01:24:00,600 --> 01:23:59,140 again thank you so much for joining us 2245 01:24:02,340 --> 01:24:00,610 on the show and I look forward to having 2246 01:24:03,870 --> 01:24:02,350 another conversation with you again 2247 01:24:06,090 --> 01:24:03,880 sometime down the lines always a 2248 01:24:07,530 --> 01:24:06,100 pleasure my friend as well thanks for 2249 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:07,540 having me on all right talk to you soon 2250 01:24:11,820 --> 01:24:09,970 ma'am all right so uh mark schwartz will 2251 01:24:13,290 --> 01:24:11,830 be back next week he will be married by 2252 01:24:17,010 --> 01:24:13,300 then so we can give them all sorts of 2253 01:24:18,930 --> 01:24:17,020 love for that and up until that point I 2254 01:24:21,210 --> 01:24:18,940 just encourage you to please continuing 2255 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:21,220 to support youth funders through irn 2256 01:24:25,170 --> 01:24:22,930 like I said at the beginning of the 2257 01:24:28,410 --> 01:24:25,180 program download the irn app you can 2258 01:24:30,780 --> 01:24:28,420 please do that by going to the app store 2259 01:24:32,850 --> 01:24:30,790 on itunes or the google android market 2260 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:32,860 search i are in and this will out there 2261 01:24:36,750 --> 01:24:34,330 you just launched that sucker and you 2262 01:24:38,940 --> 01:24:36,760 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01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:05,140 so where that specific time west coast 2277 01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:07,570 eastern time eastcote why are you guys 2278 01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:08,710 so much better that you get the same 2279 01:25:11,820 --> 01:25:09,850 work we gotta use two different words 2280 01:25:14,220 --> 01:25:11,830 over here that's just my own thoughts 2281 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:14,230 don't even worry about it also you can 2282 01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:15,730 follow truth funders on twitter at truth 2283 01:25:19,050 --> 01:25:17,440 funders for the latest news blogs and 2284 01:25:20,490 --> 01:25:19,060 interviews and project i like us on 2285 01:25:22,620 --> 01:25:20,500 facebook where we have interactive 2286 01:25:24,180 --> 01:25:22,630 conversations constantly we listen to 2287 01:25:26,130 --> 01:25:24,190 your opinions and always post articles 2288 01:25:28,290 --> 01:25:26,140 that we can discuss later on this show 2289 01:25:30,060 --> 01:25:28,300 that's it 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01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:19,330 the new apps that we are adding to truth 2318 01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:21,010 funders over the next couple months big 2319 01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:22,770 things are constantly happening and 2320 01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:25,360 developing my name is art web thank you 2321 01:26:28,290 --> 01:26:26,710 so much for tuning in this week for mark 2322 01:26:30,420 --> 01:26:28,300 Schwartz who was off getting married I 2323 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:30,430 say thank you and for the rest of other 2324 01:26:35,010 --> 01:26:33,730 of spirit I are in MJ Bob Joe everyone 2325 01:26:36,750 --> 01:26:35,020 thank you so much again for tuning in to 2326 01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:36,760 truth funders and I will talk to you it 2327 01:26:43,170 --> 01:26:39,010 next week my name is art web until then 2328 01:26:45,660 --> 01:26:43,180 i will say avoir funders radio on the